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Re: Calculation and Vision issues
Reply #17 - 05/14/10 at 17:58:15
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The Yusupov Boost/Build up Your Chess series from Quality Chess sounds like exactly what you need.

I currently have Build Up Your Chess 3: Mastery.  Each chapter is a short training lesson followed by a series of exercises on the theme.  You can look up all the topics at the QC site, but they include isolated pawns, backward pawns, hanging pawns, playing against hanging pawns amongst others.

On the other hand, you may not want to buy yet more books.  But I must admit I think I will be spending much more time with this one than others I have: also it appears I may have to use the "lower level" ones as well...

I love the Yusupov books, but you're right, the ratings given are way too high. I'm 1800 USCF and I find vol. 1 (ostensibly for getting to 1500) a nice review with even some new material and vol. 2 (for getting to 1800) a real challenge.
  
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Reply #16 - 05/14/10 at 15:17:19
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The Yusupov Boost/Build up Your Chess series from Quality Chess sounds like exactly what you need.

I currently have Build Up Your Chess 3: Mastery.  Each chapter is a short training lesson followed by a series of exercises on the theme.  You can look up all the topics at the QC site, but they include isolated pawns, backward pawns, hanging pawns, playing against hanging pawns amongst others.

On the other hand, you may not want to buy yet more books.  But I must admit I think I will be spending much more time with this one than others I have: also it appears I may have to use the "lower level" ones as well...
  
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Re: Calculation and Vision issues
Reply #15 - 05/12/10 at 17:48:10
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yankdog wrote on 05/12/10 at 17:04:00:
The more I think about it.  What i need is a good book on puzzles that are not necessarily tactical puzzles, but positions of varying types which suggest plans that MAY contain tactical elements. 

And then there's this thread over here: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1273644403 Smiley
  

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Re: Calculation and Vision issues
Reply #14 - 05/12/10 at 17:04:00
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Gorath wrote on 05/09/10 at 15:55:07:
yankdog wrote on 05/06/10 at 17:11:31:

2. My calculation is not broad enough or deep enough. In other words, not only do I not consider enough candidate moves, I also dont look very deeply into the position. I know I should, but I find it hard to orient my mind toward the process. I wind up playing and enjoying tactical games as it turns out so this problem is magnified.


I rediscovered an older book last week which tackles this problem: Improve Your Chess Now by Jonathan Tisdall (ca. 1996).
Tisdall gives concrete algorithms / processes for calculation and the finding of candidate moves in attack and defense in complicated situations. He tries to explain what to calculate in which order and when you should compile a list of candidate moves. 
Furthermore he explains the different calculation goals in attack (-> break through; get advantage) and defense (hold) and makes a case why Kotov's famous algorithm doesn't work in practice. Dvorestky's ideas are also found quite in line with his own recommendations.

There are many other recipes, but IMHO Tisdall's works pretty well in the situational context, plus it often cuts down the amount of calculation necessary because Tisdall recommends to work on a critical path instead of a full tree of variations.


Yes I have this book and it actually served as one of a few books that was the basis for me to sort of detail a thinking process.  This book is wonderful and Watson refers to him in his first book Modern Chess Strategy (I think?).   

I may revisit him.  The more I think about it.  What i need is a good book on puzzles that are not necessarily tactical puzzles, but positions of varying types which suggest plans that MAY contain tactical elements.
  
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Re: Calculation and Vision issues
Reply #13 - 05/09/10 at 15:55:07
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yankdog wrote on 05/06/10 at 17:11:31:

2. My calculation is not broad enough or deep enough. In other words, not only do I not consider enough candidate moves, I also dont look very deeply into the position. I know I should, but I find it hard to orient my mind toward the process. I wind up playing and enjoying tactical games as it turns out so this problem is magnified.


I rediscovered an older book last week which tackles this problem: Improve Your Chess Now by Jonathan Tisdall (ca. 1996).
Tisdall gives concrete algorithms / processes for calculation and the finding of candidate moves in attack and defense in complicated situations. He tries to explain what to calculate in which order and when you should compile a list of candidate moves. 
Furthermore he explains the different calculation goals in attack (-> break through; get advantage) and defense (hold) and makes a case why Kotov's famous algorithm doesn't work in practice. Dvorestky's ideas are also found quite in line with his own recommendations.

There are many other recipes, but IMHO Tisdall's works pretty well in the situational context, plus it often cuts down the amount of calculation necessary because Tisdall recommends to work on a critical path instead of a full tree of variations.
  
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Re: Calculation and Vision issues
Reply #12 - 05/07/10 at 21:33:04
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trw wrote on 05/07/10 at 20:06:51:
I have a different problem with focus issues.

During the game, I see very very far. I'm actually proud of my calculation skill. But then once the game becomes clear and i'm winning... I relax and I quit focusing. I can't seem to won the won game. And i'm not talking about slightly winning features either. I mean up a full rook or a queen vs knight. Something elementary that I think most 1200s would win. I feel embarrassed and frustrated with chess for weeks. To play very very well and throw it all away on a ?????????? level move right before the finish line. I know the saying is "the hardest thing to win is the won game" but I have somehow managed to take that to extremes. I think it might be a psychological problem or something.... but any advice or books worth reading would be appreciated.

To avoid such painful experiences (and we all have them, but some more than others), in winning positions I try to be even more systematic and careful than usual. Identify the weak points of my position that could conceivably allow a swindle. Look at every possible defence and counterattack. Something like the Kotov "tree" method, but with liberal double-checking.

But probably you know this already and it's really an attention problem. Kotov and others discuss the Blumenfeld rule, meant to be followed on every move except in extreme time trouble: When you're done thinking and ready to move, take one last look at the board "through the eyes of a patzer"... and discover the simple tactic you have missed before it's too late! 

It's also not a good idea to enjoy a winning position too much at the board; until the opponent resigns I have work to do. I can be relaxed and happy after the game.

I have blundered in winning positions sometimes, usually when I've been lazy on my regular tactical puzzles. So now I try to get 1/2 hour of tactics training (easy to medium difficulty) every day the last week before a tournament. It doesn't necessarily make me a better player, but it helps me catch myself before I blunder and thus at least maintain my level.
  

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Re: Calculation and Vision issues
Reply #11 - 05/07/10 at 20:06:51
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I have a different problem with focus issues.

During the game, I see very very far. I'm actually proud of my calculation skill. But then once the game becomes clear and i'm winning... I relax and I quit focusing. I can't seem to won the won game. And i'm not talking about slightly winning features either. I mean up a full rook or a queen vs knight. Something elementary that I think most 1200s would win. I feel embarrassed and frustrated with chess for weeks. To play very very well and throw it all away on a ?????????? level move right before the finish line. I know the saying is "the hardest thing to win is the won game" but I have somehow managed to take that to extremes. I think it might be a psychological problem or something.... but any advice or books worth reading would be appreciated.
  
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Re: Calculation and Vision issues
Reply #10 - 05/07/10 at 18:56:51
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Thank you for the responses.  Now that I reflect on it, years ago when I was about 150 points higher I did not have a computer or 179 chess books collecting dust on the shelf so I really did analyze my own games in the fashion you mention.  I guess I need to go back to that and freely admit that it is the necessary step for improvement.  I think I just need to be more disciplined in not moving the pieces and improving my visualization skills.

Again, thanks.  This is helpful (more like a necessary sledgehammer to wake me up!).

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Re: Calculation and Vision issues
Reply #9 - 05/07/10 at 18:25:10
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Yankdog, it sounds to me like you need practice really "digging in" to a position.  I recommend doing this with games of yours that you have recently played and have NOT yet looked at on the computer or with a strong player.

Just get a piece of paper and a pencil--nothing else--and start going through the game, thoroughly analyzing everything.  Try to sense where critical turning points in the game are, those places where you had to make difficult decisions like which pieces to exchange, what pawn structure you should have, what plan to take, any tactical operations, etc.  Then just dig in and analyze EVERYTHING you can, writing it all down as you go.   

If the position is very complicated, analyze as far ahead as you can without moving the pieces, then move the pieces to the end of your line  and keep going until you reach some clarity.  Do not be satisfied with writing "22.Nxd6 Bh3 23. Rfc1 Qd8! unclear" or anything like that.

This is the best advice I can give, it will help your tactical skills, your analytical/calculation ability, and help improve concentration.  Depending on the games, this should easily take you at least 4 hours per game.

I did this and basically nothing else and went from USCF 2000 to USCF 2200.  I analyzed about 10 games of my own, and each took 6-10 hours or so (I got faster towards the end).  The best thing about doing this is that you really gain a good understanding of your strengths and weaknesses.   

And be honest about why you played the moves you did.  You'll find yourself embarassed at how badly you play, but don't get discouraged and you'll probably improve drastically.  Every strong player I've ever met (IM and up) agree that analyzing your own games is the key to getting better, but few people actually do it.  They just turn on the computer, let Fritz do the work, and sit back and watch.

Good luck.
  
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Re: Calculation and Vision issues
Reply #8 - 05/07/10 at 15:40:47
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yankdog wrote on 05/07/10 at 14:32:41:

Maybe but that can be a lot of money at the moment. 

It comes free if you subscribe to all 12 sections, and that is already incredibly cheap in my opinion! Wink
  
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Reply #7 - 05/07/10 at 14:32:41
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jitb wrote on 05/07/10 at 13:45:05:
What about the gold plus!-section of chesspublishing? There is something about calculation. Is it any good? And the rest of that gold plus-section?


Maybe but that can be a lot of money at the moment.
  
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Re: Calculation and Vision issues
Reply #6 - 05/07/10 at 13:45:05
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What about the gold plus!-section of chesspublishing? There is something about calculation. Is it any good? And the rest of that gold plus-section?
  
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Reply #5 - 05/06/10 at 23:03:22
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The Grandmaster's Mind is marvellous, maybe my favorite chess book of all time. Prophylaxis before everything else!

But it's very high level, since all the OTB players interviewed are GMs (or in one case a GM's trainer). So probably less useful to a class B player than Heisman or Aagaard.
  

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Reply #4 - 05/06/10 at 21:04:17
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Yeah, Inside the Chess Mind was fun too, although unfortunately IIRC Aagaard lost most of the notes of the super-GM (Yusupov, maybe?). It was scary how much the GMs could say "Hmm, I've seen this position before."

If you dig that sort of book there's also The Grandmaster's Mind by Amatzia Avni, which I found pretty entertaining.
  
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Reply #3 - 05/06/10 at 20:25:43
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Right, I gotta get hold of that new Heisman book!

Agaard's Inside the Chess Mind does something similar, with players from beginner to GM solving 10 positions that the reader can attempt first. There are interesting conclusions about whether GMs calculate more, the importance of intuition and pattern recognition, and the most common types of calculation error at the different levels.
  

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