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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #50 - 12/26/10 at 19:02:40
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 12/25/10 at 23:44:32:
Good luck, Will!

Your goal is to do this with only 10 hours a week of chess study? 

Good luck.


Thank you.

No.  My goal is to do it over an extended period (probably 10 years or more), with the maximum amount of weekly study time I think I can afford without sacrificing other important things (such as my degree).  Last term that was ten hours.  This holiday it is 30 hours.  Over the 3/4 months of summer it might be 40 hours or more.
  
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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #49 - 12/25/10 at 23:44:32
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Good luck, Will!

Your goal is to do this with only 10 hours a week of chess study? 

Good luck.
  
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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #48 - 12/24/10 at 23:57:19
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I've taken a quick break from training to branch into FIDE politics: http://roadtograndmaster.com/?p=236
Merry almost-Christmas!
  
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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #47 - 10/14/10 at 10:20:30
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Supposedly Chigorin learned the moves at 16 but didn't start seriously until he was 24, when he got hooked, quit his job and went all in on chess. Didn't lots of those old masters start rather late?
And somehow I seem to remember that Suba said on the first pages in his hilarous book on dynamic chess strategy that he started late, his only tournament before 20 ending with a 0/13 score or something like that. Correct me if I'm wrong! 
Probably could someone well versed in chess history dig up a lot of names but I'm pretty sure that those late-starters all had to work pretty hard to catch up on lost times. A mixture of mega-talent, work ethic and obsession might do the trick though Smiley
  
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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #46 - 10/13/10 at 08:40:31
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If he had made the bet at the start of his undergrad degree I would be much more inclined to believe it possible.   

All that holiday and 8 terms of relaxing work....only slightly marred by the panic that set in for the 9th term.

But my understanding is that post grad degrees are a bit tougher.
  
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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #45 - 10/13/10 at 08:23:00
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The main point: He keeps on his academic education. So his approach is more reasonable than the approach of a lot of chess players being successful in becoming a titled player.  Cool
  

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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #44 - 10/13/10 at 00:33:33
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without dropping his other hobbies ([b]guitar[/b], Go, Mandarin Chinese and more), and without losing his girlfriend
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If I were him, I'd plan instead to become a top guitar shredder.
Not that it requires less work, but the girlfriend part is easier.
  
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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #43 - 10/12/10 at 17:47:16
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[quote]Now Will is attempting to improve from a Class A chess player to a grandmaster, [highlight]and proposes to do this without failing his degree (an MSci Joint Honours in Physics and Chemistry), without dropping his other hobbies (guitar, Go, Mandarin Chinese and more), and without losing his girlfriend [/highlight](who has not the slightest interest in chess). In general he will maintain a normal student’s social life.[/quote]

:)) Seems he has just wasted 200 pounds then...

I [i]do[/i] think that you can [i]achieve almost anything[/i] if you put your mind to and if you're ready to do what it takes. But it's simply impossible to achieve anything if you're not prepared to sacrifice something else for it. 

Still, there is one chance though: he could try to buy himself the title with some fixed tournaments in eastern Europe, apparently he would then have a budget of 5000 pounds which would probably be enough...
  
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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #42 - 10/12/10 at 17:01:28
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MNb wrote on 10/12/10 at 16:07:33:
Dink Heckler wrote on 10/12/10 at 12:47:19:
I would take all such stories with a pinch of salt.

Very sensible, but the stories about Donner are well documented by a lot of eyewitnesses.


I don't doubt it, but just observe that many of these stories are heavily embellished or rely on rank hearsay. Also, strangely, people understand different things by 'starting playing'; it's an elastic concept.
  

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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #41 - 10/12/10 at 16:34:07
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A frequent poster on this forum, TopNotch (an IM) started playing chess at the age of 15.
  

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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #40 - 10/12/10 at 16:07:33
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Dink Heckler wrote on 10/12/10 at 12:47:19:
I would take all such stories with a pinch of salt.

Very sensible, but the stories about Donner are well documented by a lot of eyewitnesses.
  

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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #39 - 10/12/10 at 12:47:19
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trw wrote on 10/11/10 at 23:29:31:
I would also answer that GM Julio Becerra didn't learn chess til age 14.


I would take all such stories with a pinch of salt.

The topic at hand is an interesting one; do adults face difficulty improving because their brains no longer have the required plasticity, or because real life intervenes. Perhaps a bit of both, but to what degree?

In this guy's case, I'd take a Bayesian approach: what are the probabilities of him improving dramatically, given that (I'm guessing) he's shown no such inclinations over the last decade or so? Put another way, if he had what it takes, wouldn't he be (at least halfway) there already?
  

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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #38 - 10/12/10 at 12:07:56
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[quote]One of his famous comments is that one had to play chess, in order to avoid a regular job.[/quote]

IIrc Fischer said something similar around the time of the come backmatch. Something like: "Chess nowadays is hard work, and I started to play chess to avoid hard work" :)
  
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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #37 - 10/11/10 at 23:29:31
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I would also answer that GM Julio Becerra didn't learn chess til age 14.
  
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Re: Will Taylor's "Road to Grandmaster"
Reply #36 - 10/11/10 at 19:02:57
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Stigma wrote on 10/11/10 at 13:36:10:
Maybe not the best of examples? In Gormally's new book on calculation he says (I'm paraphrazing from memory) british GMs are "notoriously lazy"

So was GM Jan Hein Donner. When he qualified for the Göteborg Interzonal of 1955 Dutch federation paid a second for him (Cortlever, if memory serves me well). His preparation went like this. The evening before playing Geller he asked Cortlever to show him something for Black. Cortlever suggested the Burn Variation and showed a couple of lines. Donner listened fully concentrated and went to bed without any comment. To Cortlever's amazement the next day Donner played exactly the line he had suggested - and got away with it.
It did not take him too much time to earn the title: 1958. He learned the game at the ripe age of 14.
One of his famous comments is that one had to play chess, in order to avoid a regular job.
Back then the GM title meant more than now, but not everybody had to work to earn it.
  

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