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Reply #20 - 02/04/11 at 15:06:56
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I also have a sort of problem ...
I am rated 2000 in chess and I am 27 ... but the next step after winning a public tournament in the regional congress and small master tournament some time ago would be to get to 2250 to be able to win the ultimate master tournament in my region, or even more try to get the FM title reaching 2300 ELO ... but currently I am in a quite heavy master program in computer science, so I have not really time for chess, besides playing some blitz ... but even then I don't really think I will continue chess, because the next step to reach (e.g. rating 2200 or FM title) is just too far away for me ... I need to spend my energy on my career Smiley ... and being a computer scientist, I don't need to play additionally chess, because my profession is already quite intellectual ... 
also for me personally chess just takes too long, I don't want to play in 9 round tournaments, where where is only 1 round per day, or something ... I'd prefer a more rapid-orientated approach ...
but the break did quite good to me, because I played a good blitz tournament recently after not having participated in a tournament for about 6 months, I won against some 2200's and almost won against a 2400 player ... I really don't know why that is, because I am really out of training ...
  
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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #19 - 02/04/11 at 07:48:03
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Fausto is right, to an extent.

You should only do other activities that improve your chess, such as swimming or dancing.  Wink That's right, no girlfriends  Grin
  

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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #18 - 02/04/11 at 06:37:14
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Sometimes, our mind is saturated of chess, or any other activity you enjoy with.

You should take a break and do other thinks you used to enjoy, to renew your mind.

Good luck in your new chess life and your ego-rating :-D


gewgaw wrote on 02/03/11 at 22:07:23:
Re! - Back! Full motivated and in best shape (lost 8 kgs) The sky is the limit! 
On next sunday my opponent (IM) will feel my strength - grrrrr!  I can´t wait for my prey!  Wink

  

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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #17 - 02/03/11 at 22:07:23
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Re! - Back! Full motivated and in best shape (lost 8 kgs) The sky is the limit! 
On next sunday my opponent (IM) will feel my strength - grrrrr!  I can´t wait for my prey!  Wink
  

The older, the better - over 2200 and still rising.
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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #16 - 11/22/10 at 03:01:33
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HoemberChess wrote on 11/20/10 at 11:17:21:
@gewgaw:
As TN and others wrote, there is more to chess than (ego-) rating.


There is a strong correlation between a high ego rating and a high elo rating.
  

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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #15 - 11/20/10 at 11:17:21
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@gewgaw:
As TN and others wrote, there is more to chess than (ego-) rating, which is just timely for me, too, because I am just dropping back below 2100. (I wouldn't have to, but there are only few tournaments around here for rating (at least, which is accessible for me), thus no more opportunity this year for correction.)
I, too, am over thirty (born exactly thirtyfive years ago), and don't have the same energy level I had, say, just only at 33. I am also a little bit fat now, compared to that time... Physical condition counts much.
I was told by players at a decent level (2200 and FM) that I already have the potential to reach 2200-2300, while I am able to play horrible tournaments when I make such moves as if I knew nothing of chess, regardless of opponents. (In one tournament I am a match for FMs, while at another I am losing by incredible blunders, not considering even the opponent's next move, against 1800-1900s.) I am very disappointed after certain defeats... 
Should I quit chess, then?  No, I love the game more. I am trying to forget about rating (both mine and the opponent) and concentrate only the board in front of me. 
Just don't care what others think about your abilities. The best state of mind is when you have to look up your own rating in a database when asked about it.
  

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Reply #14 - 11/19/10 at 21:09:19
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ErictheRed wrote on 11/19/10 at 16:20:17:
gewgaw wrote on 11/19/10 at 11:42:32:
Thanks for your answers and thoughts, as usual the forum hits some enlightning points. So far I´ve made no conclusion, if I quit chess or just a chess break.  Undecided


You don't need to make a decision.  Just stop playing chess for a while.  If you come back then you took a break, if you never come back you quit.  Easy.  But it sounds like you need some time away.


Maybe you should just play rapid or blitz every so often, instead of classical.

And remember Korchnoi who only started playing in world championship matches in his 40s - not to mention Smyslov in the final of the candidates at age 61..!

Still plenty of room to improve Smiley
  
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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #13 - 11/19/10 at 16:20:17
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gewgaw wrote on 11/19/10 at 11:42:32:
Thanks for your answers and thoughts, as usual the forum hits some enlightning points. So far I´ve made no conclusion, if I quit chess or just a chess break.  Undecided


You don't need to make a decision.  Just stop playing chess for a while.  If you come back then you took a break, if you never come back you quit.  Easy.  But it sounds like you need some time away.
  
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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #12 - 11/19/10 at 11:42:32
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Thanks for your answers and thoughts, as usual the forum hits some enlightning points. So far I´ve made no conclusion, if I quit chess or just a chess break.  Undecided
  

The older, the better - over 2200 and still rising.
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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #11 - 11/18/10 at 16:06:48
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MartinC wrote on 11/18/10 at 10:27:14:
For fun surely? If need be play lots of different openings and things to keep a bit fresh.

That's what I have done at OTB-chess indeed. A couple of times last years I prepared opening A and behind the board decided to play opening B. Quite amazingly it worked.
One other tip: forget about your rating. It will be OK in the long run anyway. Just focus on the next tournament and even better: on the next game. Enjoy it and try to win it.
  

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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #10 - 11/18/10 at 13:23:38
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gewgaw wrote on 11/17/10 at 13:05:56:
Hi all,

I´ve a question to those, who reached their peak, but still play on ...
I´m in my 30´s and ... feel this is my peak, if I play on, it´s just a fight against the inevitable decline. ...

Son,

in a man's life there are good times and there are bad times. Believe me: The good times are better.

You can win and lose. That's why winning is SO important!

Remember: If to die would be evil not all of us would do it.

If you're down you have to dig deeper.
  

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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #9 - 11/18/10 at 12:17:31
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Well, you're certainly in good company: look at Fischer.  Different people have different motivations for playing.  Some people play to be sociable; some for pretty much the opposite reason.  If you play mainly to improve, then it could be tough if you come to believe can't improve.

I suppose for myself I regard chess as an art form, and I enjoy the content of the games, and such meager mastery of that content as I may have. I enjoy the study-like paradox that suddenly appears on the board, or the feeling that I've timed a pawn break correctly, or that I understood some new situation in the endgame (you can keep getting better at that for a long time). I also value the post-mortems and social dimensions of the game.  One of my favorite moments occurred during a fairly serious skittles game, when my opponent had a knight on h8, good for nothing except controlling f7 and g6. Suddenly he stopped in wonder at how pathetic the knight looked, and said incredulously,  "it's like a pawn with a stick." That hilarious image has never left me. 

The prospect of losing a few more due to, say, increasing fatigue in the later stages of a tournament--for such factors lie behind age-related stagnation--doesn't bother me; and so I think dropping chess for this reason would be an sad result of the rating system. I mean, even if your rating declines you will still frequently have the experience of winning: checkmate ends the game. But today there is a second game, about statistics, and it is a much less beautiful affair than the first.

There is no rating that could measure the transition from middle-period to late Beethoven; or rather one could be constructed, but it would tell you less than you know.

  
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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #8 - 11/18/10 at 10:27:14
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For fun surely? If need be play lots of different openings and things to keep a bit fresh. You - as with nearly everyone else of course! -  were clearly never to be 'anything' at the game in a global sense Smiley

It might help if you consider what getting a bit stronger would actually mean in practical terms. Would it genuinely change the people you're actually playing?

Or would it just mean getting (even) more efficient against the people you're playing anyway?

If the latter then you'll need to look really hard at whether your motivation can take it. If you're scoring say 80%+ each year without huge effort then why try to get that up to 90?!
(not that I'm good enough to have this problem but certainly at least one person on the teams I've been playing has seemed to to at least some extent.).

But if you really are getting bored then maybe take the chess less seriously and  a secondary game - maybe bridge or go or.... Lots of other good options Smiley
  
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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #7 - 11/17/10 at 18:58:42
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I'm nearly 60 and have been playing competitively for 30 years. My rating is the highest it's ever been. Sure I make blunders, but then I always have.
  
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Re: Reaching your peak in chess
Reply #6 - 11/17/10 at 18:58:02
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Lol, i didn't take up this game untill i was nearly 30.  I quickly dropped chess for girls/drugs untill i was old enough that my beer belly / reality forbade such nonsense.  At 38 now i can honestly say i've put about 6 serious years of study into the game.  I went from 1000 to 1900 or so.  If I honestly felt 38 was over the hill, i'd slit my wrists today.  Heh, you are never too old to learn...  it's only the energy / time constraints of being old that can possibly get in the way.  I will make master.  Say this 3 times and click your heels together and you will too!
  
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