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Re: Famous Tal endgames?
Reply #9 - 12/09/10 at 23:00:42
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Thanks everyone for the good suggestions; that'll get me started.  Smyslov_Fan, I thought of Shirov when making this thread also, because I remember when he was supposed to play Kasparov for the World Title he stated in an interview that he thought endgames were his biggest strength.   

I think the Tal examples will be the most useful, as every 1600 player is familiar with him.  Unfortunately there are quite a few people now who have no real idea who Bronstein was, let alone the differences between Shirov, Aronian, Leko, Grischuk, Ivanchuck, etc.
  
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Reply #8 - 12/09/10 at 22:00:25
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micawber wrote on 12/09/10 at 07:33:46:

Bronstein would have become world champion if he had not dropped two crucial endgame points in his match against Botvinnik.


I recall there was much speculation that Bronstein was put under serious pressure to throw the match, but Bronstein wrote about his mind wandering etc etc.  Later, post-Soviet times, he basically said he was put under serious pressure by various people to throw the match, and it was up to him to decide whether or not to crumble under the pressure.  He also said he didn't really fancy becoming world champion...

It's doubtful the truth will ever be known, but I find it hard to believe he would play so badly in such an endgame.  Nerves can play a part however.
  
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Reply #7 - 12/09/10 at 21:54:55
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chk wrote on 12/09/10 at 09:51:31:
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On topic, there is a famous Tal (as White) game against a player I cannot remember, where he heads straight from the opening onto a winning pawn endgame. I've either seen it in Sheresevsky's Mastering the Opening books or in Polugaevsky's Sicilian Labyrinth. I think it might have been a Sicilian..


I guess it's a different game, but there is this famous game http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1139582

Tal sacs absolutely *everything* with 3-4 pieces en prise for several moves to reach...a pawn *down* endgame.  Which happens to be winning for white since all of black's pawns are isolated.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1034470, a Bronstein-Tal game is also an interesting endgame although Bronstein does sac an exchange on the 15th move.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1032090 is a Bronstein-Botvinnik game that may have been their first.  Bronstein won an unbalanced endgame.
  
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Re: Famous Tal endgames?
Reply #6 - 12/09/10 at 09:51:31
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micawber wrote on 12/09/10 at 07:41:50:
A personal note. I often used to sac a pawn (or two), and I found it increased my confidence to know that I was able to draw quite a few typical endgames where I was a pawn (or two) down.


Good point, it pays to have good endgame technique in case a gambit backfires.

On topic, there is a famous Tal (as White) game against a player I cannot remember, where he heads straight from the opening onto a winning pawn endgame. I've either seen it in Sheresevsky's Mastering the Opening books or in Polugaevsky's Sicilian Labyrinth. I think it might have been a Sicilian..
  

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Re: Famous Tal endgames?
Reply #5 - 12/09/10 at 07:41:50
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One more point about endgame technique.
A personal note. I often used to sac a pawn (or two), and I found it increased my confidence to know that I was able to draw quite a few typical endgames where I was a pawn (or two) down.

For the tactical inclined who loath endgames. A lot of endgames contain interesting tactical tricks.
You can of course start them on van Perlo's book or on Nunn's book Tactical Endgames.  Wink
  
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Re: Famous Tal endgames?
Reply #4 - 12/09/10 at 07:33:46
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There are some good examples in Marin's learn from the legends where Tal exploits the superiority of R+p/R+2p vs. B+Kn. 
And of course there is Tal-Bronstein, 1974 where Tal shows that with an active king B+p can defeat a passive rook.

The endgame 19th game return match Botvinnik-Tal 1961.
Ivkov-Tal, Bled 1961
Tal-Anatoshin, Kharkov, 1967
And I seem to rember that Tal published an endgame study in relation to a game against Boök with K+pawns vs K+pawns+knight where a pawn in compensation for a knight is sufficient to draw.
Of course you had to be very strong to reach an endgame against Tal.
On the darker side, Tal missed several endgame wins against Botvinnik.

Bronstein would have become world champion if he had not dropped two crucial endgame points in his match against Botvinnik.
One through a blunder, but in the famous endgame of 2B vs 2.Kn a lack of technique.

We also know that Kasparov spend months studying endgames in preparation for the semi-final candidates match against Korchnoi.
  
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Re: Famous Tal endgames?
Reply #3 - 12/09/10 at 06:28:30
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Topalov-Shirov, Linares 1998 springs to mind.
 
There's a chapter at the end of Fire on Board that features some great endgames played by Shirov.

There's a bunch of Tal's endgames in Marin's book (I'm blanking on the name atm.)
  
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Re: Famous Tal endgames?
Reply #2 - 12/09/10 at 00:57:51
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Thank you, and keep the recommendations coming!  If there is a book where some nice analysis of Tal's (or Shirov's, Bronstein's, etc) endings are published, please include that also.
  
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Re: Famous Tal endgames?
Reply #1 - 12/08/10 at 23:08:20
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ErictheRed wrote on 12/08/10 at 17:16:24:
Many class players want to emulate players like Tal, Bronstein, etc., and often don't want to study anything but tactics and openings.  These sorts of players often neglect the endgame and strategic play.  I'm looking for instructive endgame examples by "attacking" players to help me convince class players that to be successful, even great attacking players had to have a high level of endgame technique and positional understanding. 

Any good study material that shows Tal converting a small engame plus to a full point? 


Two early ones to start you off:

Tal - Krogius, Tbilisi 1956: reduction to typical rook ending. Tal heads for the Lucena position.

Tal - Lisitsin, Leningrad 1956: the active king in the endgame.
  
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Famous Tal endgames?
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Many class players want to emulate players like Tal, Bronstein, etc., and often don't want to study anything but tactics and openings.  These sorts of players often neglect the endgame and strategic play.  I'm looking for instructive endgame examples by "attacking" players to help me convince class players that to be successful, even great attacking players had to have a high level of endgame technique and positional understanding. 

Any good study material that shows Tal converting a small engame plus to a full point?
  
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