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Reply #18 - 01/20/11 at 15:06:39
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The first challenge game is over, Hoerbiey-Swiss_Dragon. Houdini assessed the final position as -0.55. This means Black wins according to our rules. It was really an exciting game. I will post it with some analysis once the other games have finished as well.
  
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Reply #17 - 01/16/11 at 17:38:18
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ArKheiN wrote on 01/16/11 at 16:19:36:
I have a small question, does your study of that line for Black means that you have found a good line against the supposed critical 12.Kb1(!)?


No, this is unrelated.
  
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Reply #16 - 01/16/11 at 16:19:36
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I have a small question, does your study of that line for Black means that you have found a good line against the supposed critical 12.Kb1(!)?
  
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Reply #15 - 01/15/11 at 17:52:02
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I´m looking forward to this challenge!

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Re: Challenge
Reply #14 - 01/14/11 at 18:45:56
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Fausto Alava-Moreno wrote on 01/14/11 at 16:30:56:
If I have any possibility, i will play the third game on the white side.

I will spend some time on the position this weekend, and will send you my first move on Monday.

Is is possible to play 10 moves in 20 days instead of 1 move every 2 days?

I have a very complicated life to ensure that I will be able to follow 1 move in 2 days max schedule.



Sure, no problem! 10 moves in 20 days is fine as well.
  
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Re: Challenge
Reply #13 - 01/14/11 at 16:30:56
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If I have any possibility, i will play the third game on the white side.

I will spend some time on the position this weekend, and will send you my first move on Monday.

Is is possible to play 10 moves in 20 days instead of 1 move every 2 days?

I have a very complicated life to ensure that I will be able to follow 1 move in 2 days max schedule.

Swiss_Dragon wrote on 01/14/11 at 14:32:55:
Second game under way. Who is third? Smiley

  
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Reply #12 - 01/14/11 at 14:32:55
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Second game under way. Who is third? Smiley
  
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Reply #11 - 01/13/11 at 09:57:24
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Since I assume that the other players will play either Ndxb5 or Ncxb5 I will go all in with g4 to increase the theoritical discusion value of b5.

If the had been an over the board the my first instinct was Ndxb5 but computer check indicates that black gets good attacking chanses if white is not carefull.
  
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Reply #10 - 01/13/11 at 08:52:17
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Great! The first game is under way. Smiley
What about bragesjo, ArKheiN and TN? Are you ready as well?
  
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Re: Challenge
Reply #9 - 01/11/11 at 07:45:50
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For sure this is an intersting Challenge SwissDragon! What a cool idea. Ok I do not play 1.e4 anymore, but I do play the dragon and am familiar wit this idea. As gambits should be accepted (most of them!, in my opinion) I will throw my hat in for the Nxb5 line/s.

Hope we have some fun!

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Reply #8 - 01/07/11 at 17:58:09
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bragesjo wrote on 01/07/11 at 16:59:47:
While I dont have any good computer and lack experience in corr chess, I have experince in Dragon lines so I might give it a try.

However I need to think for a few days before I accept the challange.

After 14 Ndxb5 Qb6 Nd4 Rc5 looks very interesting.
14 Ncxb5 Rc5 Nc3 Qb6 leeds to same positon.

After 14 g4 hxg4 h5 both Rxc3 and Nxh5 Bh6 Kh7 looks interesting, not shure who is better in either case.


Correct. Although after 14.g4 I would play 14...a5. It's true that 14.g4 hxg5 15.h5 Rxc3 is an alternative, although I think that White might be a little better here after 16.Qxc3 Nxh5 17.Qe3.

Bye the way, I also don't have a strong computer at hand, just a laptop.
  
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Reply #7 - 01/07/11 at 16:59:47
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While I dont have any good computer and lack experience in corr chess, I have experince in Dragon lines so I might give it a try.

However I need to think for a few days before I accept the challange.

After 14 Ndxb5 Qb6 Nd4 Rc5 looks very interesting.
14 Ncxb5 Rc5 Nc3 Qb6 leeds to same positon.

After 14 g4 hxg4 h5 both Rxc3 and Nxh5 Bh6 Kh7 looks interesting, not shure who is better in either case.


  
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Re: Challenge
Reply #6 - 01/07/11 at 13:47:30
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I am always excited to test a new engine, but before I can tell which one is strongest I have to let him search many wilds positions where I "definitely" know the right evaluation. At the moment Fire1.31 is the best I own for sure, I will tell you rather soon if I find Houdini better or not.
  
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Reply #5 - 01/07/11 at 13:39:28
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ArKheiN wrote on 01/07/11 at 13:23:41:
Nice, I have dl it. Since when this program exist and is it proved to be stronger than Fire1.31? Last question, how much hash should we put for infinite analysis? 128MB or what? I might be open for the challenge but I will tell you later if I do.


I'm no expert, but I would suggest Hash size 256MB. 

It is easier to compare Houdini and Deep Rybka, since they are both contained in most computer raiting lists, see e.g. www.inwoba.de, which lists Houdini 54 rating points higher than Deep Rybka. I think there are no "official" tests of Fire versus Houdini, but Fire is thought to be around the strength of Deep Rybka. However, for computing long variations, Deep Rybka seems to be weaker than both Houdini and Fire (judging from personal experience).
  
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Reply #4 - 01/07/11 at 13:23:41
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Nice, I have dl it. Since when this program exist and is it proved to be stronger than Fire1.31? Last question, how much hash should we put for infinite analysis? 128MB or what? I might be open for the challenge but I will tell you later if I do.
  
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