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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #19 - 01/20/11 at 10:10:23
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Jay wrote on 01/19/11 at 19:36:24:
I do that too.  I am currently working on Silman's Endgame Course and Aagaard's Attacking Manual 1 and 2.  I also have others, but I cannot claim to be working on them now.


Then play an opening aiming to attack. The Tartakower is excellent - I have taken it up myself recently for corr. chess - but it won't give you too much opportunity to test your attacking skills. Neither does your white repertoire.
So I suggest the Leningrad Dutch instead.

Regarding that pseudo-Tartakower: it doesn't have a good reputation indeed, but on a 1700 level 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 5.e3 0-0 6.Nf3 b6 (so without ...h6 as not to weaken the squares f5 and g6) 7.cxd5 exd5 might be playable indeed. The general idea is to play ...Nf6 and ...f5.
Petrosjan-Spassky, WCh-m 1969 (14) should be a good example; the deviation 12.Qc2 g6 13.Bh3 Ne4 14.Bxe7 Qxe7 15.Bxd7 Qxd7 16.dxc5 Nxc5 is also typical.
  

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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #18 - 01/20/11 at 09:19:06
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kylemeister wrote on 01/19/11 at 23:58:47:
TN wrote on 01/19/11 at 23:40:42:

You can even play the Tartakower against the Exchange with 5.Bg5 Be7 6.e3 0-0 7.Bd3 h6 8.Bh4 b6 when 9.Nf3 will transpose directly to a Tartakower


Such a Tartakower, with ...ed instead of ...Nxd5, has long been considered suboptimal, as far as I know.


Used to be commonly played long ago but along came the young Kasparov against Beliavsky and made the setup look dubious. Mind you it took Kasparov, and he made a lot of stuff look dubious.
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #17 - 01/20/11 at 04:56:00
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Jay wrote on 01/19/11 at 16:19:57:
Okay,
I am going to put some spin into the book recommendation request because I have decided that 1.Books tend to clutter my shelves and 2.I prefer seeing the lines in chessbase ebooks, so I found two that seem promising, but I am definitely open to others:
Fighting the Anti-King's Indians and Play the Grunfeld both by Yelena Dembo and Everyman.

Everyman's books are usually available as chessbase ebooks and both mentioned here are ebook available.  Anyone know of any publishers aside from Everyman that publish in Chessbase ebook?


Playing something with g6 is a good idea if you already play a g6 Sicilian.

Based on the things you've posted in this thread I think you should buy Fighting the Anti-KIs and Bologan's ChessBase DVD on the KI, if you like the KI. The eBook has concrete antidotes to all the strange deviations. The DVD is detailed enough to explain a good plan against all white variations and tell you where the pieces belong. 
The Grünfeld leads to more open positions but requires more precise theoretical knowledge.
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #16 - 01/19/11 at 23:58:47
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TN wrote on 01/19/11 at 23:40:42:

You can even play the Tartakower against the Exchange with 5.Bg5 Be7 6.e3 0-0 7.Bd3 h6 8.Bh4 b6 when 9.Nf3 will transpose directly to a Tartakower


Such a Tartakower, with ...ed instead of ...Nxd5, has long been considered suboptimal, as far as I know.
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #15 - 01/19/11 at 23:40:42
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ReneDescartes wrote on 01/19/11 at 22:59:58:
TMB = Tartakower - Makagonov - Bondarevsky System of the Queen's Gambit Declined: 1 d4 d5 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 Bg5 Be7 5 e3 O-O 6 Nf3 h6 7 Bh4 b6. 

In English-speaking countries it is most often just referred to as the Tartakower. The most respectable of the most respectable of openings for Black. Karpov relied on it in his first match with Kasparov, and Kasparov just hit a brick wall.

In fact, Petrosian, Spassky, Fischer, Karpov, Kasparov, and Kramnik all used it, often in very important games. Matthew Sadler's QGD book has a good explanation, and there is a Black repertoire book coming out soon featuring it.


The QGD Lasker seems even more respectable than the TMB after Anand's two victories against Topalov, but I think the TMB is a better choice for a club player. 

You can even play the Tartakower against the Exchange with 5.Bg5 Be7 6.e3 0-0 7.Bd3 h6 8.Bh4 b6 when 9.Nf3 will transpose directly to a Tartakower, but 9.Nge2 followed by 0-0, f3, Bf2 and e4 looks difficult to meet, so you can't use the TMB setup against every one of White's different tries.
  

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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #14 - 01/19/11 at 22:59:58
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TMB = Tartakower - Makagonov - Bondarevsky System of the Queen's Gambit Declined: 1 d4 d5 2 c4 e6 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 Bg5 Be7 5 e3 O-O 6 Nf3 h6 7 Bh4 b6. 

In English-speaking countries it is most often just referred to as the Tartakower. The most respectable of the most respectable of openings for Black. Karpov relied on it in his first match with Kasparov, and Kasparov just hit a brick wall.

In fact, Petrosian, Spassky, Fischer, Karpov, Kasparov, and Kramnik all used it, often in very important games. Matthew Sadler's QGD book has a good explanation, and there is a Black repertoire book coming out soon featuring it.
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #13 - 01/19/11 at 19:36:24
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trw wrote on 01/19/11 at 17:36:08:
if you are a 1700 on chesscube then you are probably a 1400-1500 on USCF ie your time is better spent improving other areas than your opening play.


I do that too.  I am currently working on Silman's Endgame Course and Aagaard's Attacking Manual 1 and 2.  I also have others, but I cannot claim to be working on them now.
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
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if you are a 1700 on chesscube then you are probably a 1400-1500 on USCF ie your time is better spent improving other areas than your opening play.
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #11 - 01/19/11 at 17:22:41
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I have a tournament rating in 3 minute games at chesscube of 1500-1600 and a non-tournament rating for games ranging between 10-20 minutes of about 1710.  Put me down as a solid when I want to be ?1650? I guess.  I was a USCF member for a year, but you have to travel to get to tournaments and pay registration fees.  I will eventually get a real rating, but it will not happen in the next 3 years.
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #10 - 01/19/11 at 17:11:44
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One might wonder, for example, what your rating is.
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #9 - 01/19/11 at 16:58:15
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TicklyTim wrote on 01/19/11 at 16:29:13:
First decision to narrow it is whether you prefer dark square (concentrating on d4/e5 square) such as KID, Grunfeld & Benoni's or White squares (e4/d5) such as QGD, Nimzo & 7169504B4B2507.
What sicilian do you play? Does it involve a Bg7 fianchetto?

I tend to play Bg7 with the Sicilian.  I am still fairly new to KID which I have played, but I played it for kingside attacks.  I am fairly neutral on lightsquare versus darksquare, but if one fits in better with 1.e4 c5 and Bg7, then it might make a more comprehensive repertoire right?
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #8 - 01/19/11 at 16:34:56
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Jay wrote on 01/19/11 at 16:19:57:

Everyman's books are usually available as chessbase ebooks and both mentioned here are ebook available.  Anyone know of any publishers aside from Everyman that publish in Chessbase ebook?


There are several product lines that come close:

- ChessPublishing. It's one update per opening per month, so always reasonably up-to-date. If you need a more general overview there are playable ebooks that link to the games. You can still buy an everyman ebook as a starting point of course.

- Chessbase training DVDs (videos). Most of these come with a database of the the games/lines presented. But many of these are meant as quick overviews for beginners and so will give less depth than Everyman and especially ChessPublishing.

- Chessbase Magazine contains a number of opening surveys by strong players each issue (between 5 and 10 I think). But it's a bit hit and miss whether you get something that interests you. Some of these surveys are included in the yearly "Chessbase Opening Encyclopedia" but the surveys from recent years are usually not there, so I don't recommend this product.
  

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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #7 - 01/19/11 at 16:33:35
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Jay wrote on 01/19/11 at 15:54:56:
Okay, I feel like a noob, but what is TMB?  The only thing about KID is white is not obliged to play 2.c4 when black, if he carries through with typical KID play, may end up in the Pirc or something else entirely.  Should I pair the Pirc and KID together as a system against 1.d4?



No need.

1. d4       Aha, I'm going to get you in a Pirc with e4
1. ...Nf6  No e4 for you matey
2. Nc3    Aha, I'm going to get you in a Pirc with e4
2. ...d5    No e4 for you matey
3.  Embarrassed
  

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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #6 - 01/19/11 at 16:29:13
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The only ones with much choice are Everyman.
Alternatively you could look into the individual Chessbase stuff.

TBM is the QGD Tartakower.
Have you decided on Grunfeld?
First decision to narrow it is whether you prefer dark square (concentrating on d4/e5 square) such as KID, Grunfeld & Benoni's or White squares (e4/d5) such as QGD, Nimzo & QID.
What sicilian do you play? Does it involve a Bg7 fianchetto?
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #5 - 01/19/11 at 16:28:09
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Jay wrote on 01/19/11 at 15:54:56:
Okay, I feel like a noob, but what is TMB?  The only thing about KID is white is not obliged to play 2.c4 when black, if he carries through with typical KID play, may end up in the Pirc or something else entirely.  Should I pair the Pirc and KID together as a system against 1.d4?


I think he means the Tartakower variation of the Queens Gambit Declined. Not a bad line. At present time the Grunfeld is looking in very good shape also, although you'd need to learn some critical lines and probably remember a bit more.
  
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