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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #49 - 03/10/11 at 21:01:14
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #48 - 03/10/11 at 20:39:02
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I am going to read a review of "How Chess Games Are Won and Lost."  It really sounds like it might be up my alley.  I am also considering Crouch's Why We Lose at Chess.  I believe that I am better tactically than positionally which begs the question:

Should I study tactics or positional play?
  
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Reply #47 - 02/27/11 at 15:28:29
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Maturin13 wrote on 02/27/11 at 13:39:35:
Grivas's method for assessing one's strengths and weaknesses (http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=7008) is astonishingly similar to that given by Simon Webb in Chess for Tigers.


I'm pretty sure I came across it is one of Mednis's opening/improving books.  I'm not sure who the original inventor was.
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #46 - 02/27/11 at 13:39:35
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Grivas's method for assessing one's strengths and weaknesses (http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=7008) is astonishingly similar to that given by Simon Webb in Chess for Tigers. Grivas's categories are identical to Webb's and are even listed in the same order.

It's a good method but Chessbase/Grivas really needed to credit Webb when publishing their article.
  
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Reply #45 - 02/27/11 at 13:20:16
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Larsen_fan wrote on 02/27/11 at 13:08:26:
What he does is to build a simple matrix with Intuition and Logic on the one axis and with Facts and General concepts on the other. Then he plots in the various types e.g. the Pragmatist is one who is strong in the combination of Logic and Facts and hence, he likes open centre and mobile centre  – the Reflector is one who is strong in the combination of Intuition and General concepts hence he feels at home with closed centre, Rigid centre and dymanic centre.  The real eye-opener in this I think is the concept of focusing more on middlegame structures than on specific openings. And then look for specific variations in different openings where you can control the transition to middlegame structure.
I think I´m a reflector too but wish to work on my Activist weakness.  


I quite like Lars Bo Hansen's method of classifying chess players, due in part to its clarity, but I personally prefer the Grivas method given in a recent ChessBase article (I don't have a link unfortunately). It takes more work due to the need to fill up graphs with information, but provides a more specific profile of a player's strengths and weaknesses, and therefore what openings best resemble their playing style.

Of course, there's also something to be said for having all of open, semi-open and closed positions, or closed, semi-open and open positions in one's repertoire, if only to develop a strong understanding of all these position types. It's worth noting that all closed positions eventually open up, so even if you play say the Botvinnik setup as White in the English Opening you'll still get experience in open positions, but only after all the pieces have been developed.
  

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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #44 - 02/27/11 at 13:08:26
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What he does is to build a simple matrix with Intuition and Logic on the one axis and with Facts and General concepts on the other. Then he plots in the various types e.g. the Pragmatist is one who is strong in the combination of Logic and Facts and hence, he likes open centre and mobile centre  – the Reflector is one who is strong in the combination of Intuition and General concepts hence he feels at home with closed centre, Rigid centre and dymanic centre.  The real eye-opener in this I think is the concept of focusing more on middlegame structures than on specific openings. And then look for specific variations in different openings where you can control the transition to middlegame structure.
I think I´m a reflector too but wish to work on my Activist weakness.   
  
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Reply #43 - 02/27/11 at 12:47:55
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Larsen_fan wrote on 02/27/11 at 12:39:36:
In ”How chess games are won and lost” GM L.B. Hansen gives some advice on how to choose opening repetoire. First you got to find out what kind of player you are -  if you are an activist, reflector, pragmatist or theorist. Second you need to focus on which kind of pawn structure fits your play in the middlegame and on how you can control the transition from opening to middlegame in different openings.  As an example he gives that he loves to play with a light-square restraint structure (Watson) and he shows how he over the years have been able to enter different openings and control the transition to middlegame with this pawnstructure by choosing specific move-orders .   

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That sounds very interesting. Especially the part of activist, reflector, pragmatist or theorist players, because I haven't heard of it before. But what implications do these types have for your opening choice? Can you give an example for each. I think I am a reflector.  Grin Edit: and theorist.
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
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In ”How chess games are won and lost” GM L.B. Hansen gives some advice on how to choose opening repetoire. First you got to find out what kind of player you are -  if you are an activist, reflector, pragmatist or theorist. Second you need to focus on which kind of pawn structure fits your play in the middlegame and on how you can control the transition from opening to middlegame in different openings.  As an example he gives that he loves to play with a light-square restraint structure (Watson) and he shows how he over the years have been able to enter different openings and control the transition to middlegame with this pawnstructure by choosing specific move-orders .   

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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #41 - 01/27/11 at 08:24:50
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Markovich wrote on 01/20/11 at 15:26:21:
Jay wrote on 01/19/11 at 05:16:15:
I know this is probably opening a can of worms, but I really have no real repertoire against it.  I tend to play the sicilian against 1.e4 and play 1.c4 as white, but my understanding of 1.d4 seems a bit low.

Any suggestions are appreciated.


Absent any more info about your chess skill, but assuming you're rated at least 2100, I recommend the Gruenfeld, which I regard as the most principled response to 1.d4.  There are two ways to play it.  Either you can play 1...Nf6 versus 1.d4, 1.c4 and 1.d4, and tough it out in a pseudo-Gruenfeld if White goes that way in one of the two latter cases; or you can add the Symmetrical English to your repertoire and answer only 1.d4 with 1...Nf6, and versus 1.Nf3 or 1.c4 play 1...c5.   The latter option is available only to Sicilian players, but it seems you are one.

Personally I would suggest the first route, since I'm not all that impressed with White's anti-Gruenfeld machinations after 1.c4 and 1.Nf3.  There are those here who feel differently, especially those who have White repertoires based on avoiding the Gruenfeld.

If however you're not rated at least 2100 or so, I would recommend instead the Tarrasch, which can be played equally well against 1.d4, 1.Nf3 or 1.c4 (play 1..e6 in the latter case).



Markovich: Could you explain why you consider The Grünfeld to be the most principled response to 1.d4?
  

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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #40 - 01/26/11 at 19:38:29
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Which would be better?  Tango! by Richard Palliser or Sniper by Charlie Storey?  Both seem compatible with occasional kingside play, but I have never heard of Storey.  His sample seems to suggest that his repertoire is deeply Rybka tested, which I really doubt would mean a whole lot for a 1743 player, but I really do not encounter much opposition when I play the KID.  Even sacrificing a rook for a knight I tend to still win most of these games.  Just how sound is the rook sacrifice in the KID?

I also plan to pick up Yelena Dembo's Anti KID book.
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #39 - 01/25/11 at 00:35:48
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12.Qc3 is playable also but I'd dispute it favours White. Here an outrageous possibility is to go queenside - 12....0-0-0 but this kind of stuff is best looked at sober. At this minute I like it but tommorrow could be different....
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #38 - 01/25/11 at 00:24:56
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Keano wrote on 01/25/11 at 00:14:59:
BPaulsen wrote on 01/24/11 at 22:57:55:
 
Delaying 0-0 is not a trick, it's the main line...

And the correct response for white is 10. Qc5, which after 10...0-0 (alternatives don't impress - check it with any engine) 11. Be2 transposes to Gustafsson-Araschenko, EU Championship (rapid) 2008 (1-0) and Bu Xiangzhi-Vachier Lagrave Wijk aan Zee 2007 (1-0).

Notice that the very same Vachier Lagrave that played it in 2007 chose not repeat the line when faced with Ivanchuk in 2010, an opponent that had surrendered a draw to Kamsky in 2009 in the same line.


Hmmm. curious that if this is a main line and "correct response" (10.Qc5) all the top players who have reached this position as White(Eljanov, Ivanchuk, Zablotsky, Savchenko) have all gone 10.Be2 or 10.Bb5. I respect your dilligence though - after 10.Qc5 transposing to Bu Xiangzhi-Vachier Lagrave Wijk aan Zee 2007 looks a reasonable option to me, since I think Black was doing OK in that game - it was a rapid game so we can disregard the result.
But also interesting is 10...Nd5!? offering the c-pawn. Early days but from my preliminary checks Black gets decent compo.


The Gustafsson-Araschenko game was a rapid, not the Bu Xiangzhi-Vachier Lagrave game. The Vachier Lagrave game was Wijk aan Zee, B Group, Third Round, a classical time control game.

10...Nd5 11. Nxd5 Qxd5 12. Qc3 favors white after further analysis checked by Houdini 1.5. Taking the pawn isn't the only option. I already checked it a couple weeks ago along with a few others (10...a4, 10...Nd7).

And Vachier Lagrave chose not to repeat the line when faced with the opportunity, which is most telling considering he, along with Svidler, is the most ardent defender of the Anglo-Grunfeld as black. If black was doing so well then I doubt a 2700 faced with Ivanchuk would choose something inferior.
  

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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #37 - 01/25/11 at 00:14:59
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BPaulsen wrote on 01/24/11 at 22:57:55:
 
Delaying 0-0 is not a trick, it's the main line...

And the correct response for white is 10. Qc5, which after 10...0-0 (alternatives don't impress - check it with any engine) 11. Be2 transposes to Gustafsson-Araschenko, EU Championship (rapid) 2008 (1-0) and Bu Xiangzhi-Vachier Lagrave Wijk aan Zee 2007 (1-0).

Notice that the very same Vachier Lagrave that played it in 2007 chose not repeat the line when faced with Ivanchuk in 2010, an opponent that had surrendered a draw to Kamsky in 2009 in the same line.


Hmmm. curious that if this is a main line and "correct response" (10.Qc5) all the top players who have reached this position as White(Eljanov, Ivanchuk, Zablotsky, Savchenko) have all gone 10.Be2 or 10.Bb5. I respect your dilligence though - after 10.Qc5 transposing to Bu Xiangzhi-Vachier Lagrave Wijk aan Zee 2007 looks a reasonable option to me, since I think Black was doing OK in that game - it was a rapid game so we can disregard the result.
But also interesting is 10...Nd5!? offering the c-pawn. Early days but from my preliminary checks Black gets decent compo.
  
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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #36 - 01/24/11 at 22:57:55
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Keano wrote on 01/24/11 at 11:51:54:
Regarding the Neo-Gruenfeld/Anti-Gruenfeld or whatever you want to call it, I've had a chat with someone who should know and was told to check Kamsky's games. Using my Sherlock Holmes database it seems like this is the continuation:

1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. Qb3 Nb6 6. d4 Bg7 7. Bf4 Be6 8.Qa3 Nc6 9. e3 a5 

Seems like the trick is to delay castling. Here White has 10.Be2 or 10.Bb5 but so far Black has been doing excellently against both. 


Delaying 0-0 is not a trick, it's the main line...

And the correct response for white is 10. Qc5, which after 10...0-0 (alternatives don't impress - check it with any engine) 11. Be2 transposes to Gustafsson-Araschenko, EU Championship (rapid) 2008 (1-0) and Bu Xiangzhi-Vachier Lagrave Wijk aan Zee 2007 (1-0).

Notice that the very same Vachier Lagrave that played it in 2007 chose not repeat the line when faced with Ivanchuk in 2010, an opponent that had surrendered a draw to Kamsky in 2009 in the same line.
  

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Re: Best black repertoire book against 1.d4?
Reply #35 - 01/24/11 at 16:15:11
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There was a Seirawan-Tal game which went 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 c6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Bd3 Bb4, but that's just the old Romih Variation (standardly considered slightly better for White); I don't know what such a double queen pawn line has to do with the Nimzo-English.
  
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