OrangeCounty wrote on 05/14/11 at 17:34:43:


I wouldn't necessarily agree with this. There are 1900 players who know theory very well and even have some ideas of their own. Of course not all of them but playing the KID myself as black I've seen a few to know I'm right. Usually they are young and ambitious players.

Given that his tournament is coming up soon I would definately recommend something offbeat depending on his level and his opponents. A suggestion might be 5.Be2 O-O 6.g4. Easy enough, just be ready to take care of your own king while attacking his. Nothing much to learn here but it can certainly be ok depending on your own level and the opponents you are likely to meet. Good luck!

Edit- I just noticed that there was a thread on this http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1293095386 that brought up 5.Be2 0-0 6.g4. This is the first time i read this part of the forum so I'm not acquinted with what has been written. But as you can see from the thread most black players won't have met this a lot of times. First time I met this on the internet I felt a bit anxious to be honest.

huibui wrote on 05/05/11 at 19:48:42:


We've discussed 6...Nbd7 and I think we agree that it's OK as a transpositional tool.  As for 6...Na6, this definitely seems fine and has been played quite a lot.

For the record, Chesspublishing has some interesting games with 6...Nbd7 and a lot of games on 6...Na6.

Someone wanting to use the exchange in their repertoire needs to have something else prepared against these variations.

If you're looking for good Exchange King's Indian coverage then I suggest looking at the 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 00 6.h3 move order, it amounts to the same thing after 6...e5 7.dxe5 dxe5 8.Bg5

The point is that 6.h3 is much more useful in this position than 6.Be2 - it rules out ...Bg4xf3, which would enhance Black's control over d4. Also the Be2 often moves again, to c4, for example. So Be2 is arguably not the best square for the bishop in the Exchange variation.

Grivas' Beating the Fianchetto Defences offers a full repertoire for White in this variation, covering all of Black's possible responses. Of course, he also covers 7.d5 as well, and the bulk of the KID coverage is about that, but the Exchange variation is a nice sideline that he offers as an alternative.

I think it would be a shame to play the KID and not Black's side of the Mar del Plata, which is so dynamic and just plain fun.  So while I think that moves like ...Na6 and ...Ndb7 are important and worth playing and blah, blah, blah, I still think that it's tail-chasing to alter your repertoire out of fear of the Exchange Variation.  Just bear down and play chess, you know, and don't second-guess yourself.

the variation can be avoided entirely via 6... Nbd7 then 7... e5

TN wrote on 03/04/11 at 22:59:40:

If he is worried about the amount of theory, the Hungarian attack is worth looking into.  White has at least two plans to choose from and Black can really get into trouble if he simply plays typically thematic moves when facing the h4 plan.  Its advantage is that many black players are simply unprepared for it.  They spent time figuring out what to play against the Austrian attack, but may stumble when h4 is played early.  I picked up the basics of the line in about 30 minutes of reading from Everyman's Nge2 KI book.

Thank you  TN i will consider your idea...  
i just looked in 7.Be3 and it does look promising and the theory also seems less. thank you very much.

edit:  Is there any book on 7.Be3 Gligoric variation?

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I think he played badly because he had nothing to play(i mean the advantage)if carlsen had the advantage i think the game would not have ended like that....Note that Avruk himself admits that he could not find any advantage in the mainlines so he suggested move b3 which i do not like

raja wrote on 03/04/11 at 13:41:43:


Carlsen just played badly in that game...

Hi all, i am preparing for my first tournament next month...i have done my preparation excellently except for the kings indan.... i feel there is too much theory to learn in kid so i have planned to study exchange kings indian....what made me select exchange kid was 
1. players below my strengh i can anyhow beat with my play so poor opening selection does not matter here..

2. players at my strength i am ready to face a equal fight...but here too odds are in my favour because i will be very very thorough in my preparation which should help me but at worst i have draw...

3.players better than me then i am happy to get a draw...


guys please tell me how will black proceed in the exchange variation in the following line..

1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 00 6.Be2 e5 7.dxe5 dxe5 8.Bg5!?

i like this move and i am interested to know how black will counter this plan...

note: people who think i am sick to play exchange variation please know that i learnt with avrukh book and played a lot of games in internet in the g3 system the problem is not in the KID but in the Grunfeld! in my opinion Black equalizes if white plays g3 setup by d5! instead of d6...if i play g3 system then what black does is simply instead of playing d6 it plays d5! converting to grunfeld and often achieving better position .... as we can see from the latest game of carlsen vs giri 0-1 it does prove that grunfeld does give better position for black in the g3 system ....

edit: i just looked into my database and found a player named Onischuk who played exchange variation til he achieved 2500 rating  though only for a few times he had to play KID itself