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Reply #31 - 04/20/11 at 23:09:16
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MartinC wrote on 04/20/11 at 14:13:28:
Definetly English attack set up for me. Don't get me wrong, they're still very complex (ie fun!) positions with plenty of black counterplay.

But I do also really think that its relatively easy to play. For one thing white has a very clear/effective plan if black doesn't know precisely what he's doing. But also whites position has a genuinely sound positional base: he's well developed and his center is fairly stable.

In contrast I see a lot of people trying to play the 6 Be2 Nardojf as white and just not knowing what they're doing come the middlegame and the 6 Bc4/Bg5 style stuff is often somewhat all or nothing.




I would actually consider the Be2 line just because I like middlegames with multiple options available, but the Be3 English is more straightforward I suppose.
  
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Reply #30 - 04/20/11 at 18:42:52
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zepled37 wrote on 04/19/11 at 01:11:00:
Bresando wrote on 04/17/11 at 15:54:59:
I'm around your strenght as a player, and i have recently switched to the tarrasch QGD with very good results. Against the french i used to be an advance player, but now i feel more comfortable with Nc3. I think that also a switch to the open sicilians would be advisable.



Thanks, good to hear about the Tarrasch...do you face an early dxc5 by white often?  Wondering about playing against that where it looks like a main line gives black compensation but sacrifices a pawn in the process.


If you're talking about 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 4.cxd5 exd5 5.dxc5, this gambit is extremely good for Black.  No way would I be White OTB after 5...d4 6.Na4 b5 and so forth.
  

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Re: Critique my repertoire please.
Reply #29 - 04/20/11 at 16:09:47
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zepled37 wrote on 04/19/11 at 01:31:21:
I don't see 1...e5 happening for me.  Too major of a change


Markovich wrote on 04/20/11 at 15:57:25:
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MNb wrote on 04/19/11 at 01:35:52:
No, 1.e4 e5. I am a moderate adherent of the Markovich doctrine: Tarrasch or 1.e4 e5 as Black (Markovich thinks you should play both).


zepled37 wrote on 04/19/11 at 02:31:38:
I guess I will meet you and Markovich halfway!


PS: come on, Markovich, since when are you such a softie? The expression is funny. So I leave it here. If Zepled takes offense I will send him back to listen to You Shook Me once again (especially the finale).
  

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Reply #28 - 04/20/11 at 15:57:25
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For sure 6.Bg5 in its more critical lines is a banzai attack.  But I like to play in banzai fashion when I'm White.  I understand that in Samurai sword fighting also, there are attacks that simply must succeed, since they leave the attacker open to a killing blow if they fail.

zepled37 wrote on 04/19/11 at 01:31:21:


I don't see 1...e5 happening for me.  Too major of a change



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Reply #27 - 04/20/11 at 14:13:28
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Definetly English attack set up for me. Don't get me wrong, they're still very complex (ie fun!) positions with plenty of black counterplay.

But I do also really think that its relatively easy to play. For one thing white has a very clear/effective plan if black doesn't know precisely what he's doing. But also whites position has a genuinely sound positional base: he's well developed and his center is fairly stable.

In contrast I see a lot of people trying to play the 6 Be2 Nardojf as white and just not knowing what they're doing come the middlegame and the 6 Bc4/Bg5 style stuff is often somewhat all or nothing.
  
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Reply #26 - 04/20/11 at 12:36:34
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zepled37 wrote on 04/19/11 at 01:11:00:
Bresando wrote on 04/17/11 at 15:54:59:
I'm around your strenght as a player, and i have recently switched to the tarrasch QGD with very good results. Against the french i used to be an advance player, but now i feel more comfortable with Nc3. I think that also a switch to the open sicilians would be advisable.



Thanks, good to hear about the Tarrasch...do you face an early dxc5 by white often?  Wondering about playing against that where it looks like a main line gives black compensation but sacrifices a pawn in the process.


Yes, in blitz games (at our level) a lot of players try an immediate  cxd5 exd5 dxc5 presumably thinking thet they are going to win the d5 pawn. Give a look at some games in a database, it's quite pleasant to face this variation.
  
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Reply #25 - 04/20/11 at 11:13:48
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Thanks to all for some feedback.  Based on this and my own thoughts / feelings...here is my plan in order of "implementation":

    - continue to limit opening study time and focus on other things
    - switch to the Tarrasch Defense as Black
    - switch to open Sicilian as White
    - possibly switch to Nd2 or Nc3 against French as White


The only thing I'm planning to change right now is the switch to the Tarrasch.  I have to figure out what to play in the open Sicilian...two suggestions I saw in this thread were the Engish attack set up and 6. g3.  Not really into the g3 line or fianchetto lines in general so probably the English attack or something else.

  
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Reply #24 - 04/19/11 at 02:31:38
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MNb wrote on 04/19/11 at 01:35:52:


zepled37 wrote on 04/19/11 at 01:20:18:
I assume by open games as black you mean Indian defenses or Dutch?


No, 1.e4 e5. I am a moderate adherent of the Markovich doctrine: Tarrasch or 1.e4 e5 as Black (Markovich thinks you should play both). The reason is that beneath ELO 1800 piece activity is everything. Forget about positional subtleties; neither we nor our opponents know how to exploit them. At the other hand active pieces tend to generate more tactics, which are the decisive factor in our games.
I recognize that it doesn't feel comfortable to change your entire repertoire as Black. But you don't do yourself a favour if you stick to the Tartakower/Scheveningen combination.



Ok, I got you...I was thinking d pawn openings since you mentioned open defenses in connection with Tarrasch.  Right now (and for the foreseeable future) I'm not willing to switch to 1...e5, but I am going to switch to the Tarrasch...so I guess I will meet you and Markovich halfway!
  
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Reply #23 - 04/19/11 at 01:35:52
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BPaulsen wrote on 04/18/11 at 23:36:16:
In regards to the Caro-Kann, I think the Advance is viable for club players if they use 4. h4.

I have considered this one as I like the Caveman Approach 4.h4 h5 5.Bg5. Alas I am far less convinced by 4.h4 h6 5.g4 Bd7 6.Nd2 (Kramnik's choice) e6.

zepled37 wrote on 04/19/11 at 01:20:18:
I assume by open games as black you mean Indian defenses or Dutch?

No, 1.e4 e5. I am a moderate adherent of the Markovich doctrine: Tarrasch or 1.e4 e5 as Black (Markovich thinks you should play both). The reason is that beneath ELO 1800 piece activity is everything. Forget about positional subtleties; neither we nor our opponents know how to exploit them. At the other hand active pieces tend to generate more tactics, which are the decisive factor in our games.
I recognize that it doesn't feel comfortable to change your entire repertoire as Black. But you don't do yourself a favour if you stick to the Tartakower/Scheveningen combination.
  

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Reply #22 - 04/19/11 at 01:31:21
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 04/18/11 at 12:57:53:


If I were to recommend any Sicilian to a ~1600 player, it would be the Taimanov. I know Markovich will say that you must play 1...e5. I agree with him that 1...e5 is best for your rating level, but you could also consider the French. 

Overall, your repertoire is appropriate for your level of chess. 

If you really want to improve, spend far less time worrying about your repertoire and do lots of tactics puzzles and study the endgame. Your opening is probably at a much higher level than the rest of your game.



Curious on your rationale for the Taimanov?   

I don't see 1...e5 happening for me.  Too major of a change

My opening study time is very low...this is the first time I've really looked at it in the last 2 years that I've been more serious about chess.
  
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Reply #21 - 04/19/11 at 01:20:18
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MNb wrote on 04/18/11 at 10:40:08:
I have never understood why a repertoire should fit together. If someone enjoys the Fort Knox against 1.e4 and the Von Hennig-Schara against 1.d4, why not?
But I understand that contradictions are not virtuous.

Caro-Kann Nc3 and g4 strives for a wide open attack which you say you don't like.
GPA against the Sicilian is probably a waste of time. If you become stronger it will prove teethless. Switch to the Open Sicilian and play slightly offbeat stuff first. Davies in Taming the Sicilian (based on 6.g3) has shown it's not that much work. There are several other options; you only should avoid for the time being topical variations like the Richter-Rauser, the Jugoslav and the English Attacks.
If you like slow manoeuvring games the Classical against the Pirc is OK; I always have preferred the Argentinean Attack 4.Be3 Bg7 5.Qd2 0-0 6.0-0-0 and 7.f3. You'll be amazed how many scalps you will earn on a 1600 level.

You should either take up the Tarrasch or the Open Games as Black. Mastering open positions with active piece play is mandatory on our level if you want to improve.



Good to hear that others agree think a repertoire doesn't have to fit in some special way...

Yes, Nc3 and g4 is a big attacking game, but I guess it is different to me because the center is not wide open.   

Based on this and other recommendations, open sicilian it is at some point soon.  I assume by open games as black you mean Indian defenses or Dutch?
  
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Reply #20 - 04/19/11 at 01:17:06
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chk wrote on 04/18/11 at 08:40:05:



All in all:
- I would keep your repertoire as it is and work on other things, like the endgame or tactics, or strategy.
- I would not avoid (on the contrary welcome) open & wild positions.
- I would consider the Open Sicilian, without much work on particular lines (just choose the set-ups you like as White).
- If you still insist in adopting a new opening (for fun, fresh ideas etc.), I would pick up only 1 at a time (e.g. only the French, not the French and the C-K at the same time).

My 2c  Cool



Rest assured to you and other posters...I don't spend much time at all on openings.  I did when I first learned a long time ago, but as I've gotten back into it over the last 2 years I can't say I've specifically studied openings at all.  Mainly review annotated games and do tactics puzzles (and play...).

One opening change at a time is definitely the plan.  the switch to open sicilian seems to a recurring recommendation and I think will not be too hard at my level as I already play the sicilian with black so know general themes and positions, many games are in the sicilian that I would review as normal study and I'm pretty comfortable in those positions.
  
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Reply #19 - 04/19/11 at 01:11:00
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Bresando wrote on 04/17/11 at 15:54:59:
I'm around your strenght as a player, and i have recently switched to the tarrasch QGD with very good results. Against the french i used to be an advance player, but now i feel more comfortable with Nc3. I think that also a switch to the open sicilians would be advisable.



Thanks, good to hear about the Tarrasch...do you face an early dxc5 by white often?  Wondering about playing against that where it looks like a main line gives black compensation but sacrifices a pawn in the process.

The advance french is a little tricky as Black's set up is pretty simple and easy counterplay against d4 for a while.  I think at some point I might switch to Nc3 or Nd2 though just making one change at a time right now (Tarrasch first).
  
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Reply #18 - 04/19/11 at 01:08:01
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Spree K wrote on 04/17/11 at 15:03:15:
I'm not sure I like some of the more complex lines in your repertoire, e.g., the Advance Caro, the Advance French, the Schveningen, etc. It might be better to go for simpler, open alternatives until you get a little better, like 2 knights Caro, Tarrasch French, 1... e5 etc.



Thanks for the feedback.  I don't think there is any way around some of the complexity though as I'm not a fan of playing a "system" opening like king's indian attack set up or colle system, etc.   

1...e5 would be a major change for me.  Perhaps I missed out of playing e4 e5 openings, but I don't see myself ever going to this.
  
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Reply #17 - 04/19/11 at 00:50:38
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MNb wrote on 04/18/11 at 20:35:28:

Stigma wrote on 04/18/11 at 18:40:00:
- Caro-Kann Exchange 3.exd5 cxd5 4.Bf4!? (intending c3, Nf3, Nbd2, Bd3 etc., but avoiding 4.c3 Qc7!)

Brr, I don't like this one. 4...Bf5 and White has nothing, maybe even less.

Maybe you're right. I see Black is scoring well with the similar 4.Bf4 Nc6 5.c3 Bf5 6.Qb3 Qd7. Still the whole line is basically a reversed Alatortsev QGD with an extra tempo, and I don't think White should be worse. 

Possibly this line fits best for beginners, who just want to get the pieces out to good squares while bypassing all the specific Caro-Kann structures that they don't (yet) understand as well as Black.
  

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