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Re: Key Position vs. Critical Position
Reply #12 - 10/12/11 at 17:11:33
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Thx, Paddy! I did read a Dorfman book once, but I must have borrowed it from a friend. 

While his distinction between static and dynamic is important, I forgot that he also tied those concepts to a discussion of critical positions.
  
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Re: Key Position vs. Critical Position
Reply #11 - 10/10/11 at 19:50:26
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In short, just outside the opening theory.. My turn to move.. It's the key position for me (I need a key to unlock the door).. And in the same time..the critical position for my opponent (will I find the critical move?)..  Grin  Grin  Grin
  
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Re: Key Position vs. Critical Position
Reply #10 - 10/10/11 at 16:55:12
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 10/09/11 at 22:23:48:
Paddy, I don't have access to either of those. Please enlighten us.


I once prepared a summary for a group I was working with, so here goes:

In chess literature, there is no shortage of advice on how to choose a move, the most famous being Kotov’s “candidate move” method in his book “Think like a grandmaster”.

More recently the former Soviet Champion GM Iossif Dorfman, Kasparov’s second (1984-7) and former coach of Bacrot and Topalov, has published his own formulation for aiding chess decision-making, based on evaluating "critical positions" according to "static" and "dynamic" criteria.

•      First decide who stands better statically

Use the following four criteria, in descending order of importance:

a)      King safety;
b)      Material balance (quantity and quality);
c)      Long-term prospects (ask yourself: who would stand better after an exchange of queens?);
d)      Pawn structure.

After this evaluation, apply the following linked principles:

The side which is worse statically MUST try to employ dynamic methods to try to change the course of the battle, otherwise little by little the situation will deteriorate.

Conversely, the side that stands better statically should proceed statically (e.g. improving the position, or taking prophylactic measures against the opponent’s possible dynamic attempts), since the tide of battle is running in his favour anyway. 

Dorman points out a common mistake: for the side with the static advantage, initiating dynamic action can actually endanger that advantage!

•      So, what is dynamism?
For Dorfman, dynamism in chess consists typically of:
- changing the pawn structure;
- exchanging material;
- taking the initiative.

•      What constitutes a "critical position"?
Dorfman advises that his method is for use in critical positions. He defines a critical position as one in which either:
a)      you have to decide about a possible piece exchange; 
or
b)      you have to decide about a possible change to the pawn structure; 
or
c)      you have reached the end of a series of forced moves and need to re-orientate yourself.

Similar ideas are expressed by GM Adrian Mikhalchishin in his DVD "Decision-making in Chess".

I should add that Dorfman's first book, called in English "The Method in Chess", was given some very unfavourable reviews e.g. by Dvoretsky and Watson, but I know that his ideas have received support from titled players. 

Ken Neat's usually reliable translation  from Russian was a bit clunky this time, which probably didn't help the first book's reception. There are also French and Spanish editions of "The Method in Chess".
  
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Re: Key Position vs. Critical Position
Reply #9 - 10/10/11 at 15:04:08
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Paddy wrote on 10/09/11 at 15:00:16:
In his books and coaching GM Iossif Dorfman uses "critical position" in a very specialised sense.

The idea is used in Aleksei Suetin's Schachlehrbuch für Fortgeschrittene, Sportverlag Berlin 1981. Alas I don't feel like translating today:

Page 11, about 10.e5/12.Bc4 in the Najdorf Poisoned Pawn:
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Die Untersuchung solcher ungeklärten Positionen läuft im Grunde genommen auf das Studium bestimmter strategischer und taktischer Fragen des Mittelspiels hinaus. Davon, wie man die kritischen Stellungen beurteilt, hängt die Lebensfähigkeit vieler Eröffnungsvarianten ab.


Page 345:
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Die innige Verflechtung der ersten Entwicklungszüge mit den kritischen Mittelspielstellungen ist in vielerlei Beziehungen bedeutsam. Die Lebensfähighkeit jeder Variante hängt nämlich davon ab, inwieweit sich die Analyse und Beurteilung der kritischen Position richtig erweist.


So Suetin relates the idea of critical position specifically to the transition from opening to middle game.
I have also seen the idea applied to later stages. Here critical position means a position in which one player has to decide what the course of the remainder of the game will be. Thus a game can even have three critical positions.
On a more abstract level I think a critical position indicates a position in which the choice of the move is non-trivial and has lasting consequences. As such a critical position demands a serious investment in time.
So far my limited understanding.
  

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Re: Key Position vs. Critical Position
Reply #8 - 10/10/11 at 12:28:12
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Sylvester wrote on 10/10/11 at 11:49:00:

I don't know if I've seen many chess books that make the study of key positions their main focus. (Maybe the duo Bellin and Ponzetto; King and Ponzetto might stand in here.  Undecided)


It depends a bit, but I think there are many opening books discussing key positions (I tend to think there are many even for a single opening variation), even though they are not main focus. Winning Pawn Structures, Mastering the French and Mastering the Spanish, to name just a few, all focus on particular structures and key positions rather than just variations.
  
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Re: Key Position vs. Critical Position
Reply #7 - 10/10/11 at 11:49:00
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If there is a difference, a key position is one that is important to understanding the ideas behind a certain opening. A synonym for "key position" is tabiya.  Think of it this way, if you understand a key position, you have the key to unlock the opening.

A critical position is one in which the result of the game hangs in the balance. This is almost like the climax of a novel, the point the entire game has been building up to.

In common parlance though, they are often synonymous.


I'd like to know more about the concept of the key positions.

I appreciate that these positions are a gateway or doorway to understanding an opening.

What intrigues me is: 1) The skill needed to find/recognize the gate or door 2) The knowledge of where the doors/gates are regarding my chosen openings/defenses.

I suspect that 2) above is found in good chess books where the author generously identifies the key position for me. 

I would guess that it may have taken strong chess players much time and effort, in some cases, to conquer 1) above. Still, I would be intrigued to know the process by which they went about it. This was my reason for asking about criteria. Are criteria for critical and key positions the same? If not, why not?

I don't know if I've seen many chess books that make the study of key positions their main focus. (Maybe the duo Bellin and Ponzetto; King and Ponzetto might stand in here.  Undecided)

In any case, I think this type of book is uncommon in chess literature. I've yet to see an opening book with the title "Understanding the Key Positions of the ..."

Maybe this is the relatively "unspoken and guarded information" of the chess world  Undecided

Maybe there are erudite players reading this post who can tell us where to read the exploits of those who have found and conquered the key positions of a particular opening or defense. (I wonder if Polugaevsky's Opening Preparation is an example here  Undecided)

  
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Re: Key Position vs. Critical Position
Reply #6 - 10/09/11 at 22:23:48
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Paddy, I don't have access to either of those. Please enlighten us.
  
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Re: Key Position vs. Critical Position
Reply #5 - 10/09/11 at 15:00:16
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In his books and coaching GM Iossif Dorfman uses "critical position" in a very specialised sense.

See:
The Method in Chess )2001)
and / or
The Critical Moment (2002)
  
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Re: Key Position vs. Critical Position
Reply #4 - 10/09/11 at 04:18:47
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I answered the question in reference to chess. If the topic weren't chess, I'd agree it should be "chit chat" but since it is chess related, I'll leave it here.
  
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Re: Key Position vs. Critical Position
Reply #3 - 10/08/11 at 23:05:45
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These terms are often used by strong chess players when coaching, in chess books, in chess magazines, etc.
  

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Re: Key Position vs. Critical Position
Reply #2 - 10/08/11 at 22:16:38
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I wonder if this would belong more to chit-chat since it's really asking about the english language rather than chess, there's no meaning of the terms as far as I'm aware specific to chess.  
  
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Re: Key Position vs. Critical Position
Reply #1 - 10/08/11 at 21:57:55
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If there is a difference, a key position is one that is important to understanding the ideas behind a certain opening. A synonym for "key position" is tabiya.  Think of it this way, if you understand a key position, you have the key to unlock the opening.

A critical position is one in which the result of the game hangs in the balance. This is almost like the climax of a novel, the point the entire game has been building up to.

In common parlance though, they are often synonymous.
  
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Key Position vs. Critical Position
10/08/11 at 19:44:52
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What's the difference between these terms?
What is the criteria for a key position?
  
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