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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #207 - 02/28/12 at 02:29:53
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gewgaw wrote on 02/27/12 at 23:22:45:

Sorry, the whole concept could have worked twenty years ago, when no one had databases and the reader was glad to get an overview, today this kind of presentation looks somewhat funny. 
All in all it´s really hard for me to see his target group, because his recommended openings are too ambitious for players under 1900, but the given lines are too light for stronger amateures.

Sad Shocked - rather harsh comment, maybe my expectations were too high or I´m spoiled by quality chess and chess-stars books.


I got the White and soon regretted it as well. 
It's a book like there were many in the pre-database era, when people were so hungry for scraps of information that even manure tasted good (yes, I have a couple of Schiller's "masterpieces" on my shelves).
Pages and pages of copied and pasted commentless scoresheet just to get to the end of games (do they have editors at new in chess??). No explanations, no ideas, very few alternatives with no effort at completeness or why what he suggests should be better than any other move. Entire defences refuted in a few pages.
There are a few interesting suggestions scattered in this sea of uselessness, I'll give him that.

I thought this kind of stuff was dead and buried.
  
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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #206 - 02/28/12 at 00:56:01
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I think a variation tree format would be better than the complete games format, but that is just my opinion. The space used for the rest of the gamescore could be used on more theory in a tree format.
  

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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #205 - 02/27/12 at 23:40:33
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I was thinking the same thing gewgaw. I found the book REALLY underwhelming in terms of completeness. It feels like a more ambitious/less dishonest Dzindzi book. Maybe I've just been spoiled by chess stars/quality chess masterpieces.
  
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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #204 - 02/27/12 at 23:22:45
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I´m surprised, that this book gets so many views and posts, I´m more than disappointed.

I skimread the book due to "my" gruenfeld: nothing new under the sun, the presentation is superficial, strategic explanations: zero. 
The book makes the impression of a work by a student under severe time trouble, i.e. copy and paste here and there, but no own thoughts. For example at p.25 he mentions the King´s Indian Attack "where White just plays g3, Bg2, 0-0 and d3 without looking at what Black is doing", but I found no single line, game or recommendation about it. An other example is the Breyer defence - just nine light annotated games or mere 13 pages about the proposed main defence. 

Sorry, the whole concept could have worked twenty years ago, when no one had databases and the reader was glad to get an overview, today this kind of presentation looks somewhat funny. 
All in all it´s really hard for me to see his target group, because his recommended openings are too ambitious for players under 1900, but the given lines are too light for stronger amateures.

Sad Shocked - rather harsh comment, maybe my expectations were too high or I´m spoiled by quality chess and chess-stars books.

  

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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #203 - 02/27/12 at 22:39:18
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I dont know, sorry, I dont have the book.
  
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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #202 - 02/27/12 at 22:36:56
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He gives 15.a4 c5 16.d5 c4. But he only has one game on this line anyway.
  
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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #201 - 02/27/12 at 21:37:12
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spagh3tti wrote on 02/23/12 at 22:37:06:
FischerTal wrote on 02/23/12 at 21:26:59:


However, I have found problems with the Breyer, it seems to me that most Whites have lots of model game examples of great White players beating the Breyer e.g. Fischer Kasparov Karpov and Deep Blue
So one's White opponents in the Breyer can easily play at a very high level compared to other openings eg I just had a player  100 plus Elo below me play like game 1 Fischer Spassky rematch against me and it felt like being outplayed by  GM so I am thinking of keeping most of the repertoire but choosing another Ruy Lopez line possibly Marin's book or Johannsen's  on Zitsev  or Cox's Berlin or Finding a good Marshall book which of these do you guys favour?



The breyer is a positional defence, not really something you can pick up overnight with good results, especially in blitz.
The fact that you mentioned Fischer-Spasskij tells me that you've been following the old main line 15.a4 c5 16.d5 c4. I would advise against that, unless you know exactly what you're doing. The modern treatement is easier to play and understand, see for example the games of GM Sasikiran.


This is very interesting. But since I don't have the book yet...is this "modern treatment" expressly advocated in Kaufman's book?
  

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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #200 - 02/27/12 at 17:50:47
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Seems to me the Sniper is not covered by this book BTW. I *think* that 1 d4 g6 is met by 2 e4 to prevent 2 .. f5 but there's no reference to 2 e4 g6 3 ? Of course this is not the biggest omission ever, but the Sniper was a very well selling book so I expect to meet it every now and again..
  
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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #199 - 02/24/12 at 00:05:45
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spagh3tti wrote on 02/23/12 at 22:37:06:
FischerTal wrote on 02/23/12 at 21:26:59:


However, I have found problems with the Breyer, it seems to me that most Whites have lots of model game examples of great White players beating the Breyer e.g. Fischer Kasparov Karpov and Deep Blue
So one's White opponents in the Breyer can easily play at a very high level compared to other openings eg I just had a player  100 plus Elo below me play like game 1 Fischer Spassky rematch against me and it felt like being outplayed by  GM so I am thinking of keeping most of the repertoire but choosing another Ruy Lopez line possibly Marin's book or Johannsen's  on Zitsev  or Cox's Berlin or Finding a good Marshall book which of these do you guys favour?



The breyer is a positional defence, not really something you can pick up overnight with good results, especially in blitz.
The fact that you mentioned Fischer-Spasskij tells me that you've been following the old main line 15.a4 c5 16.d5 c4. I would advise against that, unless you know exactly what you're doing. The modern treatement is easier to play and understand, see for example the games of GM Sasikiran.


The Breyer seems not too difficult to play to me; it seems like a closed game but nothing too excessively complicated. Perhaps that is because I am usually accustomed to the complications of the Najdorf, but the plans seem to be centred round the ...d5 pawn break or ...exd4/cxd4 pawn breaks. It seems solider than the Marshall and probably less theoretical.
  

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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #198 - 02/23/12 at 22:48:13
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FischerTal wrote on 02/23/12 at 21:26:59:
I have been trying this repertoire out in blitz icc games and have really enjoyed it. I like the feeling that Kaufman has done the work for you and it leaves one the time to concentration stuff like tactics and endgames.

However, I have found problems with the Breyer, it seems to me that most Whites have lots of model game examples of great White players beating the Breyer e.g. Fischer Kasparov Karpov and Deep Blue
So one's White opponents in the Breyer can easily play at a very high level compared to other openings eg I just had a player  100 plus Elo below me play like game 1 Fischer Spassky rematch against me and it felt like being outplayed by  GM so I am thinking of keeping most of the repertoire but choosing another Ruy Lopez line possibly Marin's book or Johannsen's  on Zitsev  or Cox's Berlin or Finding a good Marshall book which of these do you guys favour?


Another possibility is to play the Breyer, but play different lines to what Kaufman recommends. Just about anything is playable against the Ruy Lopez, so like fling stated it's largely a matter of taste. The Marshall would be the best option if White didn't keep avoiding it!
  

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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #197 - 02/23/12 at 22:37:06
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FischerTal wrote on 02/23/12 at 21:26:59:


However, I have found problems with the Breyer, it seems to me that most Whites have lots of model game examples of great White players beating the Breyer e.g. Fischer Kasparov Karpov and Deep Blue
So one's White opponents in the Breyer can easily play at a very high level compared to other openings eg I just had a player  100 plus Elo below me play like game 1 Fischer Spassky rematch against me and it felt like being outplayed by  GM so I am thinking of keeping most of the repertoire but choosing another Ruy Lopez line possibly Marin's book or Johannsen's  on Zitsev  or Cox's Berlin or Finding a good Marshall book which of these do you guys favour?



The breyer is a positional defence, not really something you can pick up overnight with good results, especially in blitz.
The fact that you mentioned Fischer-Spasskij tells me that you've been following the old main line 15.a4 c5 16.d5 c4. I would advise against that, unless you know exactly what you're doing. The modern treatement is easier to play and understand, see for example the games of GM Sasikiran.
  
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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #196 - 02/23/12 at 21:49:19
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FischerTal wrote on 02/23/12 at 21:26:59:
I have been trying this repertoire out in blitz icc games and have really enjoyed it. I like the feeling that Kaufman has done the work for you and it leaves one the time to concentration stuff like tactics and endgames.

However, I have found problems with the Breyer, it seems to me that most Whites have lots of model game examples of great White players beating the Breyer e.g. Fischer Kasparov Karpov and Deep Blue
So one's White opponents in the Breyer can easily play at a very high level compared to other openings eg I just had a player  100 plus Elo below me play like game 1 Fischer Spassky rematch against me and it felt like being outplayed by  GM so I am thinking of keeping most of the repertoire but choosing another Ruy Lopez line possibly Marin's book or Johannsen's  on Zitsev  or Cox's Berlin or Finding a good Marshall book which of these do you guys favour?


The systems are good in different ways I guess, and more a matter of taste for most players. There is also e.g. Davies book on the Spanish. I haven't looked carefully at the Marshall, even though I got the Quality Chess book by Brunello and some other books. However, how often would you actually get to play the Marshall OTB? Or even the Spanish mainlines nowadays?
  
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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #195 - 02/23/12 at 21:26:59
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I have been trying this repertoire out in blitz icc games and have really enjoyed it. I like the feeling that Kaufman has done the work for you and it leaves one the time to concentration stuff like tactics and endgames.

However, I have found problems with the Breyer, it seems to me that most Whites have lots of model game examples of great White players beating the Breyer e.g. Fischer Kasparov Karpov and Deep Blue
So one's White opponents in the Breyer can easily play at a very high level compared to other openings eg I just had a player  100 plus Elo below me play like game 1 Fischer Spassky rematch against me and it felt like being outplayed by  GM so I am thinking of keeping most of the repertoire but choosing another Ruy Lopez line possibly Marin's book or Johannsen's  on Zitsev  or Cox's Berlin or Finding a good Marshall book which of these do you guys favour?
  
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Re: The Kaufman repertoire
Reply #194 - 02/23/12 at 15:49:29
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Ametanoitos wrote on 02/23/12 at 14:08:19:
I have no idea. But i'll see it and i promise i'll be back with comments on it.


I appreciate that. Komodo 3 indeed takes the pawn. I'm afraid this idea is likely to be total rubbish  Cry

Edit: It seems there is some hope:

5.-b4 6.Qc2 
5.-Lb7 6.Nc3 ed (6.-a6 7.e4 b4 8.Db3) 7.Nxb5; 
5.-a6 6.Nc3 b4 7.Na4 Bb7 8.Qb3 ed 9.Qe3+ (+=Fritz 11)

« Last Edit: 02/23/12 at 19:49:42 by Lauri Torni »  

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Reply #193 - 02/23/12 at 14:08:19
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I have no idea. But i'll see it and i promise i'll be back with comments on it.
  
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