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Re: What will Schandorff and Watson recommend?
Reply #17 - 03/06/12 at 02:20:27
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4.e3 looks like the line that will probably be picked looking at the QC blog, Jacob says the Nimzo chapter starts with 3 of Botvinik's games.  The Saemisch or four pawns against the KID.
Not sure if anyone guessed the Grunfeld line correct, I thought Russian or Exchange with Be3 but no conformation from Jacob, only that I got 3 guesses right, but he won't say which ones. 

Here were my guesses,

Nimzo-4.e3 or 4.f3
KID-Saemisch
Grunfeld-Russian or Exchange with Be3.
Dutch-Classical fianchetto
Benoni-Four pawns or 6.e4
Benko-Declined

Until then, I am enjoyong Kaufman's Rep. for White and Black, some interesting lines and alteritives to Playing the Queens Gambit QC.  Like the Bishop sac line in the Slav, I like both variations in each book leading to different types of games.  So now I can choose which line depending on my opp. and mood.  Looking forward to Playing 1.d4 the Indain defenses QC. Cool

Also Kaufman's updates in his new book on the Classical 4.Qc2 Nimzo along with Challenging the Nimzo QC together are great coverage if you play this line.

  

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Re: What will Schandorff and Watson recommend?
Reply #16 - 03/02/12 at 15:45:01
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Oblonskij wrote on 03/02/12 at 14:59:16:
I'm really hoping for the e3 Nimzo because imo this is an awesome choice for a repertoire but strangely neglected by book authors.


I think there is a thread about this. Sokolov is writing a series on the Nimzo:
http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1329958431
  
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Re: What will Schandorff and Watson recommend?
Reply #15 - 03/02/12 at 14:59:16
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I'm really hoping for the e3 Nimzo because imo this is an awesome choice for a repertoire but strangely neglected by book authors.
KID Sämisch would be OK although i never tried it. I don't think the exchange Grünfeld is possible within a repertoire book with only 1 volume, but Schandorff has fit both the Botwinnik and the anti-Moscow into one part of a book (with mixed success one has to say) so he might try it.
  
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Re: What will Schandorff and Watson recommend?
Reply #14 - 03/01/12 at 15:25:31
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Watson is writing a strategic repertoire.........that means tough to predict- strategic could be like Avrukh with fianchetto against most things.

Schandorff- KID Samisch, Bf4 Benoni, Nimzo Nf3, Grunfeld Russian

  
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Reply #13 - 02/26/12 at 18:32:47
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Zwischenzugzwang wrote on 02/26/12 at 13:17:07:
Antillian wrote on 02/25/12 at 17:48:40:
Authors writing repertoire books frequently like to give their recommended lines a spin at the board. So his 2011 praxis is quite relevant.

Sounds very reasonable, and if I were to write a chess book (who on earth would buy that  Sad) I would do the same.

But checking Schandorff's (MegaBase-)games from 2010 til now again, I wonder if there's any pattern (with the exception of the Benkö Accepted with 7.g3 and one or two KI Sämisch [one of them might also count as a benoni with f3], but three KIs with g3) or rather (statistical) white noise. So I guess you've checked his games from some internet playing sites?

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Actually, I wrote my predictions on the Quality Chess blog and Aagaard said I was only 50% correct, without saying which two were correct.
  

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Re: What will Schandorff and Watson recommend?
Reply #12 - 02/26/12 at 13:17:07
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Antillian wrote on 02/25/12 at 17:48:40:
Authors writing repertoire books frequently like to give their recommended lines a spin at the board. So his 2011 praxis is quite relevant.

Sounds very reasonable, and if I were to write a chess book (who on earth would buy that  Sad) I would do the same.

But checking Schandorff's (MegaBase-)games from 2010 til now again, I wonder if there's any pattern (with the exception of the Benkö Accepted with 7.g3 and one or two KI Sämisch [one of them might also count as a benoni with f3], but three KIs with g3) or rather (statistical) white noise. So I guess you've checked his games from some internet playing sites?

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Edit: Maybe I could write one: "Wie man nicht Schach spielt - 55 feiste Fehler in jeder Partie" ("How Not to Play Chess - 55 Fat Plunders in Every Game"), with a foreword by Dr. Robert Hübner  Cheesy
  

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Re: What will Schandorff and Watson recommend?
Reply #11 - 02/25/12 at 19:14:15
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Schadorff: Ambitious mainlines.
Watson: Slightly less ambitious lines. Watson was quite critical of the choices in the d4 book by Cox.
  

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Reply #10 - 02/25/12 at 17:48:40
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Zwischenzugzwang wrote on 02/25/12 at 13:37:18:
I'm not sure how far Schandorff's praxis is so relevant; I had a cursory look at his games from 2008 til now, and there are a lot of different systems, many of them with a king's side fianchetto.


Authors writing repertoire books frequently like to give their recommended lines a spin at the board. So his 2011 praxis is quite relevant.
  

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Re: What will Schandorff and Watson recommend?
Reply #9 - 02/25/12 at 15:29:53
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Fllg wrote on 02/25/12 at 13:46:26:
Zwischenzugzwang wrote on 02/25/12 at 13:37:18:
By the way - how do you know of that book? I don't visit the QC site very often, but from time to time, and I haven't seen anything about it. Do they give a date for publication (+ 1 year  Roll Eyes)


If I remember correctly the release is planned for this spring/summer.



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Reply #8 - 02/25/12 at 13:46:26
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Zwischenzugzwang wrote on 02/25/12 at 13:37:18:
By the way - how do you know of that book? I don't visit the QC site very often, but from time to time, and I haven't seen anything about it. Do they give a date for publication (+ 1 year  Roll Eyes)


If I remember correctly the release is planned for this spring/summer.
  
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Re: What will Schandorff and Watson recommend?
Reply #7 - 02/25/12 at 13:37:18
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Antillian wrote on 02/25/12 at 09:25:26:
But based on Schandorff's recent praxis as well as clues and hints given at the Quality Chess blog, I can say with almost 100% certainty that Schandorff will recommend the following:

Nimzo: Rubinstein
KID: Sämisch
Benoni: Modern treatment with h3 and Bd3.
Dutch: Mainlines with fianchetto


I'm not sure how far Schandorff's praxis is so relevant; I had a cursory look at his games from 2008 til now, and there are a lot of different systems, many of them with a king's side fianchetto. As Avrukh has covered fianchetto lines in the Grünfeld, King's Indian and Benkö, I don't think that Schandorff would go for similar lines. The KI Sämisch seems a good guess to me, as this was also not covered in Markos' "Beat the KID" (2008).

The Rubinstein? I'm not sure - would one call that a space grabbing system without compromises?? Rather the Classical with 5.e4 (in case of 4...0-0), or, following Gilchrist, 4.f3 (which I would also appreciate), although that might be too off-beat. The Classical was covered by Vigorito in 2007, but one could argue that Vigorito's "Challenging the Nimzo-Indian" was not a repertoire book, and in some of the variations (the aforementioned 5.e4-line in particular), quite some developments have happened since then.

Dutch Fianchetto with c4 - what else?

Benoni Modern line also seems to be a plausible choice.

As argued before, I don't think that Schandorff would cover any Grünfeld Fianchetto line. I would guess some line with 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 - Schandorff has shown in his Queen's Gambit book that he's not afraid of discussing lines with heavy theory, and those systems are quite "space-grabbing".

What else? He doesn't need to cover the Queen's Indian, if he goes for the Nimzo, and then the Benkö ... There my overview is too limited to make any "educated guess".

By the way - how do you know of that book? I don't visit the QC site very often, but from time to time, and I haven't seen anything about it. Do they give a date for publication (+ 1 year  Roll Eyes)?

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Re: What will Schandorff and Watson recommend?
Reply #6 - 02/25/12 at 11:03:17
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BPaulsen wrote on 02/25/12 at 08:58:28:
Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 02/25/12 at 06:38:41:

I find it a bit strange, though, that Schandorff prefers the aggressive approach to 1. d4, but wrote the Grandmaster Repertoire book on the Caro-Kann, which is not exactly too aggressive.


Not strange at all - many players aim to maximize their chances with white while neutralizing them as black. It's a practical decision, quite common.


His treatment of the C-K was quite aggressive too.
  

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Reply #5 - 02/25/12 at 09:34:26
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I still think the other lines are viable guesses, but re-reading that quote, perhaps the King's Indian: Gligoric and Grünfeld: 4. Bg5 Ne4 5. Bf4, or maybe both Fianchetto for King's Indian and Grünfeld.
  

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Re: What will Schandorff and Watson recommend?
Reply #4 - 02/25/12 at 09:25:26
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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 02/25/12 at 06:38:41:
If I had to take complete guesses for Schandorff, maybe:

Nimzo-Indian: 4. f3 Sämisch
King's Indian: Four Pawns
Grünfeld: Russian Variation
Modern Benoni: Taimanov Variation
Dutch: Fianchetto with c4
Queen's Indian: Fianchetto 
Benkö Gambit: 5. f3



I can't guess at Watson's book. But based on Schandorff's recent praxis as well as clues and hints given at the Quality Chess blog, I can say with almost 100% certainty that Schandorff will recommend the following:

Nimzo: Rubinstein
KID: Sämisch
Benoni: Modern treatment with h3 and Bd3.
Dutch: Mainlines with fianchetto

By the way, this post belows in General Chess
  

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Re: What will Schandorff and Watson recommend?
Reply #3 - 02/25/12 at 09:07:44
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Gilchrist is a legend wrote on 02/25/12 at 06:38:41:


Guesses for Watson book:

Nimzo-Indian: 4. Qc2
King's Indian: Mar Del Plata
Grünfeld: 7. Bc4
Modern Benoni: Fianchetto:
Dutch: Fianchetto with c4
Queen's Indian: Fianchetto
Benkö Gambit: 5. b6


Considering the introduction I guess he won't cover such theory-heavy lines like Mar del Plata or 7.Bc4 Grünfeld. It would also be difficult to cover them in just about 200 pages.

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It is the chess-player's holy grail: a flexible repertoire that gives opponents real problems but doesn't require masses of memorization or continual study of ever-changing grandmaster theory. While this book can't quite promise all of that, Watson offers an intriguing selection of lines that give vast scope for over-the-board creativity and should never lead to a dull draw.
  
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