Göran wrote on 03/26/12 at 18:03:01:
Smyslov_Fan wrote on 03/26/12 at 00:14:41:
... I don't think 1.c4 or 1.Nf3 are particularly good openings for new players. They both require knowledge of complex opening systems that would detract from the beginner's development
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I do agree with most of what you are saying Smyslov_Fan and my post is not aimed at your post but -
In this type of discussions I often see this kind of statement. I don't really understand what is meant by that.
Do you think of a 1500 rated playing 1.Nf3 against a 2300 rated? In that case I do agree. Even if you had made the same statement about any open position I would have agreed.
Do you mean a 1500 rated playing against a 1500 rated? In that case I don't understand a word of what is said. Unless it is implied that a 1500 rated do understand the complexity better when playing Black?!
I would guess that you most often play against the same level of knowledge as you possess yourself and probably have the same understanding as your opponent. Why then require a huge understanding of complexity (I don't really understand that statement either. I myself actually think that open positions are much more complex than closed) when playing White??
I do appreciate that playing open positions to get a feeling for the pieces is important. It is the "
complexity" issue I don't really understand.
I would bet good money any day on a 1500-junior raised on a Markovich-type diet of open games, classical opening principles, simple direct plans, lots of tactics practice and a good foundation of basic endgame knowledge, against an average non-Markovich-trained 1500 who opens with 1 c4 or 1 Nf3.
There is a useful distinction to be made between tactical complexity and strategic complexity. Open games (other then the Ruy Lopez) tend to be tactically complex from quite an early stage. Closed games and Flank Openings tend to postpone the crisis of the game and can give a player the illusion that they are playing decent chess, because they don't lose so quickly! But the loser probably did not understand the position very well, which eventually led to a bad position and a final tactical debacle. I have lost count of the times I have suggested a post-mortem, only to be answered with “no thanks, I know where I went wrong”. I grit my teeth and bite my tongue, suppressing the urge to say “no, you don’t, not really!”.
Tactical skill is so fundamental that it is entirely logical for a coach to prioritize it – in fact anything else is just irresponsible. And one way to do this is to encourage the playing of open games and gambits. It’s not the only way (as I’ve written earlier in this thread), but it’s the most logical way and IMHO should always be tried first. (It almost breaks my heart to attend junior events and see novices wheeling out Flank Openings or Closed Openings.)
It’s no use anyone citing primarily positional players such as Capablanca, Nimzowitsch, Petrosian or Karpov as counter-examples – the fact is that these were all tactical monsters!
Some more "scripture" to add to my earlier collection of quotations:
"If the beginner does not belong to the combinative type then, before anything else, he must learn to combine. (...) we are convinced that the late Schlechter was right in maintaining that every combinative player can become a master of the first category if things are arranged properly." Nimzowitsch, "How I became a grandmaster"
“A season or two of playing open games is an essential stage in the development of anybody who aspires to all-round and to international ability; one should study these openings before going on to the more fashionable defences and closed games.” Leonard Barden and Tim Harding in “The Batsford Guide to Chess Openings”.
There is another issue though. For a conscientious coach, older players who have stalled at a lowish level, or juniors who do not seem to have benefited from a season or two of a Markovich-type regime present a particular problem. If we want these to keep playing our wonderful game, we need to try to protect them from early problems and enable them to survive to reach a middlegame, so for these a repertoire of solid system-type openings can be appropriate. But that does not mean sophisticated, flexible openings such as the Catalan, Reti or the English.
“The English is in many respects similar to Reti’s. Both are openings which derive their strength largely from transposition possibilities. Both involve complicated positional motifs where knowledge and good judgement are equally essential.” I think these words are as true today as when GM Reuben Fine wrote them in 1943.
So far I’ve quoted the “old guys”. For modern corroboration, I recommend GM Nigel Davies’s recent article 'Appropriate Opening Choices' at
http://chessimprover.com/?p=391 and for a much fuller discussion, Chapter 9 'Choosing and Preparing Openings' in Volume 4 of IM John Watson's 'Mastering the Chess Openings' series.