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Question: Result of Aronian-Kramnik match?


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Aronian by +3 or more 0 (0.0%) Aronian by +2 2 (13.3%) Aronian by +1 5 (33.3%) 3-3 draw 2 (13.3%) Kramnik by +1 5 (33.3%) Kramnik by +2 1 (6.7%) Kramnik by +3 or more 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 15 « Created by: TN on: 04/21/12 at 11:21:51 »

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2012 Aronian-Kramnik match (Read 8610 times)

Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #15 - 04/30/12 at 06:27:43	Post Tools	Print Post
	This was a great match, with some fun chess. The drawn result was just about right. I'm glad to see how well Kramnik fought back to draw, and almost win the match. I get the feeling that if it had been a twelve-game match, Kramnik would have won. But then, if this had been a Candidates' Final, or a title match, perhaps we would have seen different choices made throughout the match. Still, it was very entertaining. I can only hope the Anand-Gelfand match will be as entertaining. Though I wouldn't mind if Anand won a 4-1 blow-out, draws not included.


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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10778 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #14 - 04/25/12 at 17:01:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	Seth_Xoma wrote on 04/25/12 at 14:41:54: Another 1.e4 game. What do the players see in this rare sideline? According to Dennis Monokroussos White's opening choice is perfect for those who think the London too risky.

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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #13 - 04/25/12 at 15:16:30	Post Tools	Print Post
	Seth_Xoma wrote on 04/25/12 at 14:41:54: Another 1.e4 game. What do the players see in this rare sideline? Well it avoids both the Marshall, the Petrov and of course the semi-slav...

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Seth_Xoma God Member Offline FM with 2 IM Norms - (2381) Posts: 558 Location: Lansing Joined: 11/05/04 Gender:	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #12 - 04/25/12 at 14:41:54	Post Tools	Print Post
	Another 1.e4 game. What do the players see in this rare sideline?


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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #11 - 04/25/12 at 00:09:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	Download game in pgn format


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Claus Jensen Junior Member Offline I Love Chess! Posts: 72 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Joined: 08/15/11 Gender:	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #10 - 04/24/12 at 18:11:20	Post Tools	Print Post
	This is my video of the 3rd game Kramnik-Aronian 1-0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myhs0fyG18o

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gewgaw God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 687 Location: europe Joined: 09/09/04	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #9 - 04/24/12 at 17:17:28	Post Tools	Print Post
	1.e4! - Impressive game by both players, but this time Kramnik was the deserved winner. 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. d4 exd4 5. Nxd4 Bc5 6. Be3 Bb6 7. Qd2 O-O 8. O-O-O Re8 9. f3 d5 10. exd5 Nxd5 11. Bg5 Nxc3 12. Bxd8 Nxd1 13. Bxc7 Bxc7 14. Nxc6 Ne3 15. Bb5 bxc6 {0} 16. Bxc6 {2} Nc4 {6} 17. Qd4 {0} Be6 {4} 18. Bxa8 {1} Bb6 {2} 19. Qd3 Rxa8 20. Re1 Rd8 21. Qe4 g5 22. c3 Bc5 23. Re2 h6 24. g3 a5 25. f4 a4 26. f5 Bd5 27. Qd3 Bb6 28. b3 axb3 29. axb3 Na5 30. Re8+ Rxe8 31. Qxd5 Rd8 32. Qb5 Rd6 33. Kc2 Kg7 34. b4 Nb7 35. c4 Rf6 36. g4 Nd8 37. c5 Bc7 38. Qd7 Nc6 39. b5 Na7 40. Qxc7 Nxb5 41. Qe5 Na7 42. Kd3 1-0

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TalJechin God Member Offline There is no secret ingredient. Posts: 2892 Location: Malmö Joined: 08/12/04 Gender:	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #8 - 04/24/12 at 09:10:28	Post Tools	Print Post
	The 2nd Fischer-Spassky match had something similar, but instead of a speed game the penalty was to play the next match game immediately.


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Claus Jensen Junior Member Offline I Love Chess! Posts: 72 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Joined: 08/15/11 Gender:	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #7 - 04/24/12 at 08:56:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	When I read the rules I was very surprised. Don't remember having seen such a rule in a match before. And the rule was indirectly playing a role already in game 2 where the players could easily have agreed on a draw inside the 3 hours. But they chose to play on until they had passed 3 hours of play... Truly a nice move by the organizers.

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TalJechin God Member Offline There is no secret ingredient. Posts: 2892 Location: Malmö Joined: 08/12/04 Gender:	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #6 - 04/24/12 at 08:29:10	Post Tools	Print Post
	Anyone else noticed the pragmatic genius of the organisers? :) If a game ends a draw before 3 hours of play, they will have to play an extra speed game - so of course all early draws will end at just over 3 hours play, as neither players wants to work an extra half hour for free... It's so much simpler than the Sofia rules and such. And maybe we'll get to see [i]one [/i]speed game - after the final game if Kramnik has equalised the score before that.


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BPaulsen God Member Offline I Love Light Squares! Posts: 1702 Location: Anaheim, CA, USA Joined: 11/02/08 Gender:	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #5 - 04/21/12 at 21:33:26	Post Tools	Print Post
	14.Re3 was disappointing, regardless of chessbase giving it praise (it only makes sense in response to ...Bg4). 14...b5 just equalized on the spot. 14.h3 b5 also works. I get the feeling Kramnik was somewhat thrown off by black's 13...Rd8, not knowing what useful 14th move to play, and he went ahead with Re3 (thematic for the variation, but again, usually just in response to ...Bg4). This would explain the time usage gap that developed.

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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #4 - 04/21/12 at 21:20:54	Post Tools	Print Post
	Ummm.... That's not what Kramnik was punished for. Still, a great result by Aronian, congratulations. I'm still rooting for Kramnik. Btw, I closed the poll too late. Several people voted after the result of the first game was already in.


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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10778 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #3 - 04/21/12 at 20:24:11	Post Tools	Print Post
	Our good friend LDZ must be ecstatic. White plays a quiet, solid move (6.Bxf6) instead of a sharp, tactical one (6.Bh4) and gets punished for it. Good game of Aronian.

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Tricklev Junior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 72 Joined: 03/12/11	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #2 - 04/21/12 at 20:11:07	Post Tools	Print Post
	MartinC wrote on 04/21/12 at 16:37:20: Kramnik really must wish he could ban the semi slav in matches by now! I've been looking forward to this match ever since they announced it, glad to see it's off to an exciting start.


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MartinC God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 2115 Joined: 07/24/06	Re: 2012 Aronian-Kramnik match Reply #1 - 04/21/12 at 16:37:20	Post Tools	Print Post
	Kramnik really must wish he could ban the semi slav in matches by now!


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