Uhohspaghettio wrote on 05/01/12 at 21:16:07:
ErictheRed wrote on 05/01/12 at 14:41:28:
To be honest though, I've looked up book moves during a match. Not necessarily during the game that the opening is being played, but if I got into one of those 10-game matches where you keep playing the same opponent, I'll look up the openings that were played in the last game while playing the current game, etc. I think this kind of thing happens all the time. I've never once played for money online or in any kind of "official" capacity so I never really gave it much thought.
.....no.
You seem to be trying to muddy the waters here by suggesting that looking up theory
between games is about the same as
during the games,

which is obviously completely false. One is complete and absolute cheating, the other is completely and absolutely fair and legal and allowed(if potentially cheap depending on the level you're doing it at). There is no question about it.
I have on a few occasions done the latter (between games) just to find a particular puzzling move, however I don't do it on a constant basis and also the opponent will usually try to rematch immediately. I also wonder if there's much point in doing it since I would probably forget it again later anyway.
You then try to further excuse your cheating by talking about how it was never done on an official basis or for money and how you "think it happens all the time".
Cheating is a terrible thing. It betrays a trust, makes a game worthless for the opponent and... everyone hates cheaters. Cheating is cheating, whether it's on a stupid scale (computer moves) or looking up the move from your new repertoire book you would know in the future. Whether it's for money or not matters little, unless it was mega-bucks you were referring to.
Soo...you first say that looking up theory between games isn't cheating, but then accuse me of cheating later? To be clear though, I wasn't talking about looking up theory between games, but rather DURING the following game of a "match," which I suppose is against the rules. For instance, Game 1 I play 1.d4 and can't remember some Grunfeld theory, Game 2 I'm playing Black in a Sicilian but while playing I'm looking up the theory to the Grunfeld line of last game, hoping to use it in Game 3 (or just to learn it for the future). In this case I don't really care about the game I'm currently playing; there was something exposed in my last game and I'm trying to rectify that.
Anyway I realized that some people wouldn't like my post when I wrote it, and I'm not trying to defend myself. I'm not suggesting that I wasn't "cheating." Rather, I was admitting to a practice that I think 90+% of people do online. I wouldn't be surprised at all if something like 50% of people looked up the opening theory during the game in question. I suppose that that is pretty cut and dry cheating.
However, let's keep things in context a little bit. If you're playing chess on an online blitz server, maybe chess.com or ICC or playchess.com or whatever, and you're not playling for money, in a tournament, in any official capacity...isn't this a bit like cheating at monopoly at a family gathering? Yes you're cheating, but who the hell really cares? Personally I don't cheat, but my sister used to cheat at cards all the time when family got together; it was just part of the "game" we were playing. How is it any different than looking up theory while playing in a coffee house? I think people take some things waaayy too seriously.
Of course, depending on the server, this sort of cheating is a violation of server rules, and hence is "bad." Playing in an actual, over-the-board, sanctioned, rated event is completely different than some random game of blitz online.
Or am I just too old and don't realize how serious the Internet has become?!??
And to be clear, it's been about 3 years since I've had an account anywhere online to play chess, and I can't say I miss it AT ALL. Now, I spend my free time studying (or playing guitar, exercizing, etc) instead of wasting time with blitz. Hence my "confession" I suppose.
Now everyone don't mind me, carry on getting upset about someone taking 1 minute to play a "book" move...and mind your blood pressure while you're at it.