Smyslov_Fan wrote on 06/14/12 at 21:56:36:
One thing everyone seems to have ignored is that the second goal Germany scored against the Dutch was very soft. The goalie went down before the shot was fired.
In the first 23 minutes of the game, the Dutch looked the better side. After the goal was scored, the Dutch looked impotent despite their better control of the game.
Holland didn't just have defensive problems, they didn't have Neuer in net. The Germans were clinical in their finishing, both in front of net and at the end of the game. The Dutch need to figure out how to score, and they need a world-class goalkeeper.
In the Spain-Ireland game, Casillas only had to make about two stops, but they were both excellent. Spain won 4-0. If the Dutch had a great goalie, they wouldn't be complaining so much about their defensive lapses.
Disagree slightly I dont think he could have saved that one (the Denmark goal is another story), it was really the defenders. If you play in central defense, you should follow the striker everywhere. When he goes to the bathroom you go to the bathroom. With both goals both central defenders were at least 10 yards away from Gomez. Cassillas would not have stopped those either, when you got Laurel and Hardy defending Gomez. Those are errors that would have gotten me benched when I used to play.
Simply put, with the exception of Sneyder, Stekelenburg and maybe De Jong all played way beyond par. They all looked tired and lacked inspiration (again with the exception of Sneyder, did you see his argument with the coach?). And then bringing Huntelaar and vd Vaart when the disaster is already there, doesnt make much differenence anymore. It is all the more disappointing since we have a couple of players who prolly would have played better. For defense we still have Vlaar, Bouhlarouz and Emanuelson (why he isnt selected is beyond me), for midfield we have got a huge line up of replacements for Van Bommel (ranging from De Zeeuw to Van der Vaart) and for wingers we have Narsingh (watch that guy), John, Kuyt and some others.
Anyway I think the tournament is over. This team wont beat the Portuguese, let alone with 2 goals difference. The only way for us to get that done is if we threaten to stop paying for the Euro "or else"
In general I think that with some exceptions the players arent really on top of their game yet. I have seen players like Arshavin, Ronaldo, Cech etc perform much better during the season.