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Question: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand Title Match?


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Anand by 2 or more 36 (37.1%) Gelfand by 2 or more 1 (1.0%) Anand by 1 41 (42.3%) Gelfand by 1 9 (9.3%) Anand in a Tie-break 4 (4.1%) Gelfand in a Tie-break 5 (5.2%) The match will be cancelled. 1 (1.0%) Total votes: 97 « Last Modified by: Smyslov_Fan on: 05/08/12 at 15:52:16 »

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gewgaw God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 687 Location: europe Joined: 09/09/04	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #173 - 05/21/12 at 14:34:18	Post Tools	Print Post
	Suicide by Gelfand, who celebrated too much, due to his first win over Anand since 1993.

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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #172 - 05/21/12 at 14:19:48	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: you seem to sympathize with Anand and you are unobjective ... ... True. I am rooting for Anand and I am unobjective.


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fling God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1591 Joined: 01/21/11 Gender:	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #171 - 05/21/12 at 14:15:13	Post Tools	Print Post
	bragesjo wrote on 05/21/12 at 13:53:44: Then Kasparov bashed out the Dragon and turned the tide of the battle and won. But that loss for Anand was a blunder, which really wasn't opening specific. A pure miscalculation in a pretty even position, right?


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chk God Member Offline a pawn is a pawn Posts: 1063 Location: Athens Joined: 10/26/06 Gender:	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #170 - 05/21/12 at 14:06:21	Post Tools	Print Post
	Interesting quote below by Shipkov (in live commentary): " It seems my tentative suggestions in the introduction to this game turned out to be correct - Gelfand simply couldn't mentally adapt to the role of being ahead in the match. The proximity of the desired summit sometimes puts much more pressure on a person than seeing it grow more distant." re Kasparov-Anand, the most important game was when Kasparov immediately rebounded after losing a game, with a Open RL novelty. Another key game was the Scandinavian one (which was a nice surprise by Anand who got the better position out of the opening, but in the end lost).

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battleangel Ex Member	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #169 - 05/21/12 at 13:55:42	Post Tools	Print Post
	you seem to sympathize with Anand and you are unobjective ... in this game Gelfand just blundered tactically, Anand didn't have to do anything ... in the game before Anand was outplayed ... Smyslov_Fan wrote on 05/21/12 at 13:45:31: Wow! This really is beginning to feel a bit like the Anand-Kasparov match with Anand playing the role of Kasparov. The main difference is that Anand won by playing a dangerous opening, the Sicilian Dragon, then fell apart. Gelfand won because Anand went berserk by pushing his king-side pawns in a slightly inferior position. Kudos to Anand for evening the score so quickly! What a boring match. It's even after 8 games, and the last one only lasted 17 moves!


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bragesjo God Member Offline CCE at ICCF 2021 and CCM at ICCF 2023 Posts: 1839 Location: Eskilstuna Joined: 06/30/06 Gender:	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #168 - 05/21/12 at 13:53:44	Post Tools	Print Post
	I have a book about the Anand-Kasparov match and in that match Anand was leading. Then Kasparov bashed out the Dragon and turned the tide of the battle and won. ------------- Anand has also played the Dragon a few times, one example is Polgar-Anand.


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Alias God Member Offline Posts: 1512 Location: East of the river Svartån Joined: 11/19/04	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #167 - 05/21/12 at 13:49:57	Post Tools	Print Post
	Smyslov_Fan wrote on 05/21/12 at 13:45:31: Wow! This really is beginning to feel a bit like the Anand-Kasparov match with Anand playing the role of Kasparov. The main difference is that Anand won by playing a dangerous opening, the Sicilian Dragon, then fell apart. Gelfand won because Anand went berserk by pushing his king-side pawns in a slightly inferior position. Kudos to Anand for evening the score so quickly! What a boring match. It's even after 8 games, and the last one only lasted 17 moves! Wasn't it Kasparov playing the dragon?

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akita Junior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 93 Joined: 03/06/06	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #166 - 05/21/12 at 13:47:41	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hi all Well a 17 mover! At last the match and Anand has woken up!! Lets hope that both players now go for throat and ditch this safety first stuff. I then woke up!! Well if Gelfand wins the match good luck to him. As the current champion Anand really must up the anti and show why he is the World Champion. As has previously been said Anand has not played well for some years let's see if he can roll back the years in the next few games. Akita


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Smyslov_Fan God Member Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #165 - 05/21/12 at 13:45:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	Wow! This really is beginning to feel a bit like the Anand-Kasparov match with Anand playing the role of Kasparov. The main difference is that Anand won by playing a dangerous opening, the Sicilian Dragon, then fell apart. Gelfand won because Anand went berserk by pushing his king-side pawns in a slightly inferior position. Kudos to Anand for evening the score so quickly! What a boring match. It's even after 8 games, and the last one only lasted 17 moves!


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Zwischenzugzwang Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing & chess pubs! Posts: 380 Location: Zotzenbach Joined: 06/14/11 Gender:	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #164 - 05/21/12 at 13:30:32	Post Tools	Print Post
	A quick scan over my database shows that both players have only very limited experience with loosing very short games: - Gashimov-Gelfand, Spain chT 2009, 1-0 after 16 moves, - Zapata-Anand, Biel (B) 1988, 1-0 after 6 [sics] moves, - Kasparov-Anand, Dortmund 1992, 1-0 after 17 moves (+ some quick defeats in blitz and rapid games).

	What do people mean when they say "Chess is the pawn of the soul"?
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TN God Member Offline Posts: 3420 Joined: 11/07/08 Gender:	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand match? Reply #163 - 05/21/12 at 13:19:04	Post Tools	Print Post
	The shortest decisive world championship game ever!

	All our dreams come true if we have the courage to pursue them.
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Matemax God Member Offline Chesspub gives you strength! Posts: 1302 Joined: 11/04/07	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #162 - 05/21/12 at 13:15:15	Post Tools	Print Post
	*The shortest decisive World Championship game ever?* Download game in pgn format


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bragesjo God Member Offline CCE at ICCF 2021 and CCM at ICCF 2023 Posts: 1839 Location: Eskilstuna Joined: 06/30/06 Gender:	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #161 - 05/21/12 at 13:14:32	Post Tools	Print Post
	I hope that Anands win does not leed to back to the same hyper solid games by both sides. If Gelfands wins this match I buy a book with hes best games. I alreay got the Anands best games in the edition he wrote when he won FIDE Championship for the first time.


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Katalyst Full Member Offline Posts: 128 Joined: 10/01/07	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #160 - 05/21/12 at 13:13:28	Post Tools	Print Post
	It should perhaps be noted that even Peter Leko didn't see the trap even up to when gxh5 was played, and don't think his ability can be disputed - it is easy to calculate once you see the idea, but that is the difficult part. Anand just said that he saw this possible trap when he played 11.exf5(!!) Interesting that Gelfand seems more relaxed and at ease in this press conference than any of the others so far! Whereas Anand yesterday was clearly not happy to be there.


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TN God Member Offline Posts: 3420 Joined: 11/07/08 Gender:	Re: Who will win the Anand-Gelfand World Championship? Reply #159 - 05/21/12 at 13:11:37	Post Tools	Print Post
	The match is practically over after this game.

	All our dreams come true if we have the courage to pursue them.
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