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Last night I heard a doctor specialist in sport saying that the bodies of jamaican athletes have a special enzime in the muscles that gives preponderance to speed. Maybe the secret is a mix of culture, history, training and some key characteristics. Usually bodies of common people have a diference between fast metabolism or slow one. Under 400 meters muscles and explosion are important, but for long running it is more of a light weight body. High level training to develop special characteristics is important too and today any technical staff armed with a computer can tell if someone could be a champion or very good in their field or not.

Jupp53 wrote on 08/10/12 at 16:37:22:


You put a winky smiley and a laughing smiley in your comment. So you found it funny to suggest that they were doping.

This is obnoxious because you shouldn't joke like that. It's really tasteless, what, did you expect we'd all laugh along? There's obviously no point to the olympics if they are doping.   
   
Also jupp53, you yourself have been cheating in both FIDE and online competitions. I don't provide evidence for this, but to deny it would be obnoxious.  
 
The word is out that you're cheating. Has this board really descended to the level of the US congress...? 

@Antillian, Of course I have no hope for the US system, as my previous comment about FloJo and Marion Jones indicates. US sprinting has been blighted by drugs. I'm just responding to wild speculation to the effect that theybare always being tested, test procedures are better than ever, so they are all clean. That syllogism could have been employed at any point
in time, and yet we know the results (often with a 
lag). 

The case of Balco is instructive. They were operating 
undetected for two decades, and were only detected 
because of a whistleblower. Marion Jones, Balco client,
never failed a drugs test, and was only rumbled by 
the threat of jail for perjury....so, no, I have no faith in 
drug testing.

Now in the case of Jamaica, it's a supposition to put on the table that a small, poor country where sprinting 
success is a matter of huge national pride might well 
have weaker testing procedures than some 
others....maybe it the case and maybe it isn't, but I 
don't see why such a question should be verboten.

I believe the Games are rife with drugs; it doesn't reduce my enjoyment of the spectacle. Just as 
example, a friend of mine was on anabolic steroids to 
improve his performance in, wait for it, high school 
tennis.....I have few illusions about how the 0.0001%
get to where they are. I don't need to conjure up 
some sort of prelapsarian idyll to enjoy the show.

I'm not gonna go defending everyone. But you may want to read a bit about the American man's time she supposedly beat.  She wasn't the only female swimmer to have beaten his time over the same distance. The selected information was an example of misusing statistics.

I'm not saying whether she doped, but what she did was completely within the realm of the possible. 

Here's a published apology by Nature Magazine regarding the accusations levelled against Ye:

http://www.morningwhistle.com/html/2012/PoliticsSociety_0809/213424.html

Dink Heckler wrote on 08/10/12 at 17:08:03:


Then you can't have much hope in  US system either. A coroner once made an error there. Clearly this prooves the entire US drug testing system is inept.

http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2011/01/errors_by_new_orleans_coroner.htm...

And the British drug testing system must also be inept based on your logic. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2094966/Amy-Winehouse-coroner-resigns-la...

Well, Blake was suspended a few years back,
And there are quite some results that are suspicious. You see quite some countries making East-German improvements in a short while.

On the other hand it is much easier to handle a jury as was shown with the dressage...

Antillian wrote on 08/10/12 at 15:25:16:


You must mean FloJo, Marion Jones etc 

There have been serious articles in "Die Süddeutsche Zeitung" about the Jamaikan doping control system. It's simply ridiculous and completely corrupted. And this is not the only nation. Don't forget - it's a business.

And looking at the bodies of some athlets: distatefulness is the denying of doping in some cases.