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Re: How did Fischer do it?
Reply #23 - 05/03/20 at 15:11:15
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Antillian wrote on 08/15/12 at 21:25:31:
I am currently reading this book. Might be worth a look:



Thank you for sharing, I will have a look at it. Sounds promising
  
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Re: How did Fischer do it?
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Fischer had some well documented mental health issues which contributed greatly to his decline in the chess world. It was a sad ending for the man.
  
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Re: How did Fischer do it?
Reply #21 - 08/17/16 at 19:18:43
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grandpatzer wrote on 06/05/16 at 10:47:51:
PS from the few photos of Fischer in 1972-73, before he disappeared, he seemed to be very happy and relaxed... smiling...the Bobby "we knew"... but what happened after that (beginning in the mid-70s) only Fischer knows for sure... although he was probably mildly anti-semitic, he wasn't openly ranting about the Jews in the early '70s.


Wasnt there an incident where he claimed he was arrested and brutally treated by police on the Mexico border? I cant remember when that was, or when the IRS starting getting involved but could that have prevoked his later behaviour, or been the early result of it?
  

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Re: How did Fischer do it?
Reply #20 - 08/17/16 at 18:41:18
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If I want to stop doing something first I have to convince my brain that it is harmful for me and I should be doing other stuffs that help me and then it become a lot easier. Other thing is motivation. Motivation of achieving your potential. When you get  that you will understand that there are things that stop it and that you must quit them.
  
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PS from the few photos of Fischer in 1972-73, before he disappeared, he seemed to be very happy and relaxed... smiling...the Bobby "we knew"... but what happened after that (beginning in the mid-70s) only Fischer knows for sure... although he was probably mildly anti-semitic, he wasn't openly ranting about the Jews in the early '70s.
  
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Reply #18 - 06/05/16 at 10:41:07
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Uhohspaghettio wrote on 08/15/12 at 05:01:35:
How did he give up chess? It's so addictive!!!



He didn't give up chess. He gave up tournament and match play. He was always interested in chess, but other things became more important in his mind, e.g. "exposing the Jews". 
  
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Re: How did Fischer do it?
Reply #17 - 11/05/15 at 10:54:37
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Fischer was a very unique idiosyncratic person. As we later found out he perhaps was suffering the early signs of the mental dis-orders he had in later life and thought not playing chess might help him??
  
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Re: How did Fischer do it?
Reply #16 - 08/23/12 at 11:12:13
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Willempie wrote on 08/15/12 at 21:16:58:
Easiest is to move to some dictatorship. North-Korea might be what you are looking for. Pretty sure you wont get sidetracked by chess and internet Wink

It musty not be so drastic. Just marry a woman you are afraid of and who does not like chess  Smiley
  

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Re: How did Fischer do it?
Reply #15 - 08/16/12 at 20:42:06
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Markovich wrote on 08/16/12 at 14:44:27:
Fischer had a miniature communicator installed as a filling in one of his teeth and wired directly to his brain through his upper jaw, all using black technology developed (unknown to Fischer) by the KGB... 


Markovich, When can I get this story downloadable as an e-book from amazon.com?  I'm ready to buy!   Grin
  
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Re: How did Fischer do it?
Reply #14 - 08/16/12 at 14:44:27
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Fischer had a miniature communicator installed as a filling in one of his teeth and wired directly to his brain through his upper jaw, all using black technology developed (unknown to Fischer) by the KGB.  The people who sold the young lad on this idea were KGB agents deeply embedded in the New York chess community.  The communicator was linked by high-frequency radio to a massive, multi-story tube-type computer outside of Irkutsk (but Fischer was led to believe that the device itself produced chess ideas).  There was a rivalry at the time, you see, between the KGB and the top Soviet chess hierarchy, and the former hoped to use Fischer to discredit the latter.

At any rate, the idea worked well at first and Fischer demolished everyone in sight, right up to Spassky.  But it was clear by Reykjavik that the device was beginning to suffer malfunction  (remember 29...Bxh2 in game 1?). It seems that budgetary considerations and small-mindedness among some Soviet administrators led to insufficient replacement of tubes in Irkutsk as they gradually burnt out. Stimulated by errant signals, Fischer's behavior become increasingly erratic.

After the match, having accomplished their purpose, the KGB successfully used the increasing unpredictable device to influence Fischer's thinking on the rematch, provoking unrealistic demands and eventually leading to the restoration of the crown to the Soviet Union.  With the major goals of the program accomplished, it was turned over to back-office elements for down-winding.  

Instead, KGB back-office moles working secretly for Israel went forward with an illicit plan of enlisting Fischer as a spokesman for Zionism . This went disastrously awry, as the by-now-almost-uncontrollable device had the reverse of the intended effect, turning Fischer into a raving anti-Semitic lunatic.  We cannot be sure, but it could be that 1 became -1 due to a single burnt-out tube somewhere in the massive, but by-now-neglected structure near Irkutsk.

Fischer finally realized what was happening and had the device chiseled out of his tooth.  It was too late, however.  The psychic damage had already been done.  The rest is history.

True story, beyond doubt.  Secret sources.

Footnote.  Botvinnik never knew that his state-sponsored chess programming experiments were the eventual basis of software developed by a crack team at Moscow University, coded up in FORTRAN IV on tens of thousands of cards, and fed into the Irkutsk computer.  They say the card reader took 17 days to load the program.
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Re: How did Fischer do it?
Reply #13 - 08/16/12 at 10:19:27
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TalJechin wrote on 08/16/12 at 10:03:00:

Btw, if you want to quit within a month, then you can add a couple of hours a day to seriously go thru for example Nunn's book on rook endgames from cover to cover.

You'd either attain GM-strength or get totally fed up with chess, the later is most likely the outcome.

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...And I wondered why Aronian had such poor results lately.
Either attained GM-strength (at last  Grin ) or simply get fed up with chess. (He admitted the only preparation for the WC cycle he had was reading the Nunn's book. Obviously, from cover to cover!  Cheesy )
  
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Re: How did Fischer do it?
Reply #12 - 08/16/12 at 10:03:00
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Vass wrote on 08/16/12 at 09:48:30:
TalJechin wrote on 08/16/12 at 08:35:37:
If I seriously wanted to quit chess I'd probably start with a daily blitz match vs a top engine, ten games/losses a day for a month or two should do it...

Unless you start to win regularly..  Grin
Well, that would be a new addiction!  Cheesy


I think I would have a better chance to win a million on the lottery... 

Btw, if you want to quit within a month, then you can add a couple of hours a day to seriously go thru for example Nunn's book on rook endgames from cover to cover.

You'd either attain GM-strength or get totally fed up with chess, the later is most likely the outcome.
  
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Re: How did Fischer do it?
Reply #11 - 08/16/12 at 09:48:30
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TalJechin wrote on 08/16/12 at 08:35:37:
If I seriously wanted to quit chess I'd probably start with a daily blitz match vs a top engine, ten games/losses a day for a month or two should do it...

Unless you start to win regularly..  Grin
Well, that would be a new addiction!  Cheesy
  
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Re: How did Fischer do it?
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If I seriously wanted to quit chess I'd probably start with a daily blitz match vs a top engine, ten games/losses a day for a month or two should do it...
  
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Re: How did Fischer do it?
Reply #9 - 08/15/12 at 23:31:21
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Uhohspaghettio wrote on 08/15/12 at 05:01:35:
How did he give up chess? It's so addictive!!!

My current strategy is to use Stayfocusd (no typo) to keep away from websites I waste time on and I find it works incredibly well. But Babaschess doesn't use the web. Does anyone else have methods of keeping away from things they don't want to do? 

All the stories I heard was that he didn't. He apparently followed the Karpov / Kasparov title match with some fervour and claimed to have analysis to show that it was all a fix but then again some of the audio achives of Fischer railing against the US rather demonstrated he had become as mad as a march hare. As for giving up chess, don't try and fight the poision, its too late...it will drive you either quite mad or to distraction.....
  

I'm reminded again of something Short wrote recently, approximately "The biggest fallacy in chess is the quasi-religious belief in the primacy of the opening."
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