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Re: quick rules question
Reply #6 - 08/16/12 at 17:56:43
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This doesn't really answer the question of why there's a  Smiley there, as if a triumph was earned...

As for it being cheating, I see...it's a "mild" form, as the move is written down to assist your thinking process.  Wait...is that what it does, or does it get you you to stop and consider what you're doing before you blunder??

I don't regard this as cheating.
  

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Re: quick rules question
Reply #5 - 08/16/12 at 17:51:53
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ghenghisclown wrote on 08/16/12 at 17:20:02:
ErictheRed wrote on 08/16/12 at 15:53:02:
A promising young junior in California, rated around 1900, used to write down 2 or 3 moves on his scoresheet and then circle the one he ended up playing!  His coach had taught him to do this.  I complained to the TD but the TD told me that since I wasn't his opponent, nothing would be done.

A few rounds later I was paired against him and after a few moves I complained to the TD, who told him that he had to stop doing this.  He blundered a few moves later Smiley.

The only things allowed to go on your scoresheet, as far as I'm aware, are the actual moves played in the game, clock times, and draw offers.  That's it; anything else is considered note-taking.


Why is there a smiley face here? he blundered perhaps as a result of not being able to do this...and that's a good chess outcome??

It's not like he was generating lines...is this really  form of cheating?


Writing down candidate moves can certainly be an aid in complex positions with many possibilities. As long as the rules are clear, which they are, I consider this a mild form of cheating.

In my junior years, it was still allowed to record a move before playing it. Back then, I saw several players recording their moves with a pencil, writing down a move, thinking some more, and occasionally wiping out the written move if they changed their mind. I find this practice similar, and I can see how it helps to keep track of what move you are actually thinking of. Now that it is not allowed anymore, I would also look at this as a mild form of cheating if I encounter it today.
  
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Re: quick rules question
Reply #4 - 08/16/12 at 17:24:28
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says Fide Handbook, Laws of Chess :

8.1
In the course of play each player is required to record his own moves and those of his opponent in the correct manner, move after move, as clearly and legibily as possible, in the algebraic notation (See Appendix C), on the scoresheet prescribed for the competition.

     
It is forbidden to write the moves in advance, unless the player is claiming a draw according to Article 9.2, or 9.3 or adjourning a game according to the Guidelines of Adjourned Games point 1.a.

     
A player may reply to his opponent’s move before recording it, if he so wishes. He must record his previous move before making another.

     
Both players must record the offer of a draw on the scoresheet. (See Appendix C.13)

     
If a player is unable to keep score, an assistant, who must be acceptable to the arbiter, may be provided by the player to write the moves. His clock shall be adjusted by the arbiter in an equitable way.

12.4
The scoresheet shall be used only for recording the moves, the times of the clocks, the offers of a draw, and matters relating to a claim and other relevant data.
  
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Re: quick rules question
Reply #3 - 08/16/12 at 17:20:02
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ErictheRed wrote on 08/16/12 at 15:53:02:
A promising young junior in California, rated around 1900, used to write down 2 or 3 moves on his scoresheet and then circle the one he ended up playing!  His coach had taught him to do this.  I complained to the TD but the TD told me that since I wasn't his opponent, nothing would be done.

A few rounds later I was paired against him and after a few moves I complained to the TD, who told him that he had to stop doing this.  He blundered a few moves later Smiley.

The only things allowed to go on your scoresheet, as far as I'm aware, are the actual moves played in the game, clock times, and draw offers.  That's it; anything else is considered note-taking.


Why is there a smiley face here? he blundered perhaps as a result of not being able to do this...and that's a good chess outcome??

It's not like he was generating lines...is this really  form of cheating?
  

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Re: quick rules question
Reply #2 - 08/16/12 at 15:53:02
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A promising young junior in California, rated around 1900, used to write down 2 or 3 moves on his scoresheet and then circle the one he ended up playing!  His coach had taught him to do this.  I complained to the TD but the TD told me that since I wasn't his opponent, nothing would be done.

A few rounds later I was paired against him and after a few moves I complained to the TD, who told him that he had to stop doing this.  He blundered a few moves later Smiley.

The only things allowed to go on your scoresheet, as far as I'm aware, are the actual moves played in the game, clock times, and draw offers.  That's it; anything else is considered note-taking.
  
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Re: quick rules question
Reply #1 - 08/16/12 at 15:41:27
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No. No notes of any kind, including writing down moves before you make them, are allowed.

Writing down the time of the move is acceptable. Writing down draw offers is now required.
  
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08/16/12 at 15:07:10
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Is it allowed to write down candidate moves on your score sheet (not asking because I'd like to do it, just curious)? I see often people writing the remaining time next to moves, but sometimes also other moves. I imagine writing down whole variations is clearly illegal. Sorry if this is too easy...
  
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