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Re: Kasparov Arrested
Reply #15 - 09/02/12 at 18:23:27
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Hadron wrote on 09/02/12 at 00:26:06:
ghenghisclown wrote on 08/20/12 at 00:39:09:
"terrorist attire" LOL  Cheesy Grin

The reality is, people often will and do break the law. The question is, what motivates authorities to disproportionately punish? If I'm not mistaken, they got 2 years.  COME ON, Uhoh!!!


'Disproportionately puninsh?"....By whoses standards? Yours? The Wests?. That is the thing, different countries have different stardards and who is anyone to tell other countries that their standards are wrong? As the old saying goes, "when in Rome, do as the romans do". If you still think there 2 years is disproportionate, what would've happened if if instead of a church they picked a Mosque? Putting it into persepctive Salem Rushdie, the last person to significantly desecrate Islam still has an Iranian death sentence imposed on him 24 years later......Pussy Riot got off lightly.
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Iran doesn't execute people like that, that's 99.9% talk and myth perpetrated by western influences. Try US-loved nations such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia for such injustices. 
   
  
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Reply #14 - 09/02/12 at 00:56:38
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I don't think it's right even by Russian standards - oh wait...we should compare everything to what Stalin or the the Spanish Inquisition would do! 

Come one, the most they did was disturb the peace and in reality they are being punished for political expression.
  

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Reply #13 - 09/02/12 at 00:26:06
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ghenghisclown wrote on 08/20/12 at 00:39:09:
"terrorist attire" LOL  Cheesy Grin

The reality is, people often will and do break the law. The question is, what motivates authorities to disproportionately punish? If I'm not mistaken, they got 2 years.  COME ON, Uhoh!!!


'Disproportionately puninsh?"....By whoses standards? Yours? The Wests?. That is the thing, different countries have different stardards and who is anyone to tell other countries that their standards are wrong? As the old saying goes, "when in Rome, do as the romans do". If you still think there 2 years is disproportionate, what would've happened if if instead of a church they picked a Mosque? Putting it into persepctive Salem Rushdie, the last person to significantly desecrate Islam still has an Iranian death sentence imposed on him 24 years later......Pussy Riot got off lightly.
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Reply #12 - 08/20/12 at 15:19:36
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I completely agree, Mnb.
  
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Reply #11 - 08/20/12 at 11:35:54
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Pussy Riot is a bunch of annoying attention whores indeed. You know, a civilized society doesn't send someone to a hard labour camp for three years for this. Somehow I don't think they will get millions out of that camp.
Not your smartest remark ever, Uhoh.
I am absolutely no fan of Kaspy, but here he deserves my respect. Defending the rights of those annoying girls is not only a sign of civilization but also well understood self interest. Next time it might be him.
  

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Reply #10 - 08/20/12 at 03:50:19
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Uhohspaghettio wrote on 08/20/12 at 02:29:41:
Well, I just watched a bit of RT and guess what? Those girls have done all kinds of publicity stunts before for their group, they have have been causing trouble like this for years. They showed footage of them conducting an orgy in a museum (blurred but you could see one of the girls was very hot! Wink ) , they at least videotaped a woman performing a sex act on a chicken at a supermarket, and they went around kissing female police officers against the police officers will. These girls are a joke, they already had Pussy Riot merchandise printed out in advance and will possibly make millions out of all this.  

No wonder they got such a sentence, possibly the judges were lenient on them before and they got off with warnings. RT may be Kremlin-backed and needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but I learned long ago not to trust the western media sources because they routinely neglect to mention very important things which change the picture completely. 
 



Causing trouble? What do you mean by that? I'm not surprised RT gave you that info. It's like CNN suddenly caring about free speech in Ecuador . 

But yes, girls kissing girls, the end of civilization itself. Now I see how the picture is changed. It's not relevant at all that they were protesting Putin.
  

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Reply #9 - 08/20/12 at 02:29:41
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Well, I just watched a bit of RT and guess what? Those girls have done all kinds of publicity stunts before for their group, they have have been causing trouble like this for years. They showed footage of them conducting an orgy in a museum (blurred but you could see one of the girls was very hot! Wink ) , they at least videotaped a woman performing a sex act on a chicken at a supermarket, and they went around kissing female police officers against the police officers will. These girls are a joke, they already had Pussy Riot merchandise printed out in advance and will possibly make millions out of all this.   

No wonder they got such a sentence, possibly the judges were lenient on them before and they got off with warnings. RT may be Kremlin-backed and needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but I learned long ago not to trust the western media sources because they routinely neglect to mention very important things which change the picture completely. 
 
  
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"terrorist attire" LOL  Cheesy Grin

The reality is, people often will and do break the law. The question is, what motivates authorities to disproportionately punish? If I'm not mistaken, they got 2 years.  COME ON, Uhoh!!!

Yeah, it's vagina. Get over it. There are bigger issues at  stake, wouldn't you say?

And Kasparov got involved because he cares about political speech...plus he wanted to attend the trial. For that, he got beaten and put in jail. 

That's plain wrong...regardless of how screwed up my country is.
  

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Reply #7 - 08/19/12 at 20:37:32
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I think this whole fiasco is ridiculous. The girls trespassed on a place they weren't supposed to be, wore terrorist attire and desecrated a holy place, they are known trouble-makers from before also continually looking for attention. Now maybe the punishment is a bit harsh, injustices occur in every country every day. I just don't see the huge relevance of this or why it's getting so much media attention. 
  
"pussy" is a byword for "vagina" and that's how it's used in the name, right? I'm hardly one to get offended at small things, but excuse me if it's old-fashioned to not like hearing this double-entendre being stated over and over on the airwaves.  
 
And for some reason the news commentators seem to like saying it over and over. I wonder they subconsciously want to "prove" that they can say this word and are not put off by it. Maybe the media think "sex sells" as a rule, it's hard to think of why this is relevant. I don't think Kasparov should be getting so involved in this. I mean if this is the best the opposition to the "regime" can come up with when people are routinely dying from tazering in the US, it makes Russia seem like one of the best nations in the world.   
   
  
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Reply #6 - 08/19/12 at 14:08:21
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I wonder who is financing Kasparov's political campaign. I cannot imagine, that he is doing all of this with his own money.

My guess would be, if Kasparov gets elected one day, the red star above the Kremlin will be replaced by a Coca Cola sign. Basically since it is red already, so they could just add the white letters.
  
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Reply #5 - 08/18/12 at 18:27:26
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I was dragged away Friday by a group of police—in fact carried away with one on each arm and leg

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Reply #4 - 08/18/12 at 00:28:24
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this whole thing is totally worth it just to see the newscasters having to constantly say "Pussy Riot" while trying to maintain the expected level of TV-news dignity.
  
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Re: Kasparov Arrested
Reply #3 - 08/17/12 at 19:47:01
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Trying to attend a trial is a dreadful thing to do of course Roll Eyes

Or did he beat Putin at a blindfold simul without a queen?

Never liked the man as a chess player, but his activities command respect.
  

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Reply #2 - 08/17/12 at 15:47:43
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 08/17/12 at 15:34:01:
At least one of the photos in that story was photo-shopped. Even so, the way Russian police handle protests and onlookers is really hurting their international image.


Photoshopped based on what?  Shocked on the nonexistent exif data or on the artifacts of a 478*641 compressed photo?
  
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Reply #1 - 08/17/12 at 15:34:01
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At least one of the photos in that story was photo-shopped. Even so, the way Russian police handle protests and onlookers is really hurting their international image.
  
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