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Reply #20 - 01/30/13 at 15:39:41
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Markovich wrote on 01/30/13 at 12:54:20:
As to Dutch, noun appositives work in Teutonic languages, the problem is with the romance languages.

sorry for nit-picking but Teutonic languages is a 19th century expression for what is nowadays called Germanic languages
  
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Reply #19 - 01/30/13 at 15:28:23
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Markovich wrote on 01/30/13 at 12:54:20:
belgian wrote on 01/30/13 at 05:48:16:
tony37 wrote on 01/27/13 at 16:51:18:
maybe "revue d'échecs" is better (in Spanish: revista de ajedrez, Portuguese: revista de xadrez)


This native Frenchie prefers slightly "revue d'échecs" over "publication d'échecs". Anything with echiquéen(ne) sounds fabricated to me.

And BTW, it would be "schaak publicatie" in Dutch.


Right, for a website title. But what if you actually want to say, "chess publishing?" Review  != publication.

As to Dutch, noun appositives work in Teutonic languages, the problem is with the romance languages.


Review != Publication?! Well, actually what is in question is the gerund "Publishing," which connotes among other things an ongoing process more than a static product. Superficially or apparently corresponding words in different languages have clouds of overlapping denotations and even more intangible connotations. The ear of the native speaker must be respected. Though grammar may be a science, translation is an art. This is naive coming from Markovich with his interest in poetry. You might as well say
 
Revue := Publishing++.
  
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Re: How to say "chess publishing" in ...
Reply #18 - 01/30/13 at 14:51:52
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Markovich wrote on 01/30/13 at 12:54:20:


Right, for a website title. But what if you actually want to say, "chess publishing?" Review  != publication.


Note that revue doesn't necessarily translate to review, revue can also mean magazine.

The publication Europe-Echecs would be described by most francophones as a revue d'echecs.

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belgian wrote on 01/30/13 at 05:48:16:
tony37 wrote on 01/27/13 at 16:51:18:
maybe "revue d'échecs" is better (in Spanish: revista de ajedrez, Portuguese: revista de xadrez)


This native Frenchie prefers slightly "revue d'échecs" over "publication d'échecs". Anything with echiquéen(ne) sounds fabricated to me.

And BTW, it would be "schaak publicatie" in Dutch.


Right, for a website title. But what if you actually want to say, "chess publishing?" Review  != publication.

As to Dutch, noun appositives work in Teutonic languages, the problem is with the romance languages.
  
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Re: How to say "chess publishing" in ...
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tony37 wrote on 01/27/13 at 16:51:18:
maybe "revue d'échecs" is better (in Spanish: revista de ajedrez, Portuguese: revista de xadrez)


This native Frenchie prefers slightly "revue d'échecs" over "publication d'échecs". Anything with echiquéen(ne) sounds fabricated to me.

And BTW, it would be "schaak publicatie" in Dutch.
  
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Reply #15 - 01/28/13 at 18:27:32
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agropop wrote on 01/28/13 at 13:05:55:
tony37 wrote on 01/27/13 at 17:01:27:
the word 'échiquier' exists, it's a chess board, but again I can't find échiquien in any dictionary

in Spanish the adjective 'ajedrecístico' exists, but I really wouldn't use this here, it sounds rather scientific


Not that scientific  Wink , we use ajedrecístico or ajedrecística (in romance languages usually adjetives have gender) for anything related to chess.

http://buscon.rae.es/drae/?type=3&val=ajedrec%C3%ADstico&val_aux=&origen=REDRAE

So publicación ajedrecística could do...but i like more how it sounds in english  Smiley


Great, I'll use it.  So I searched on " xadrecistica" for a Portuguese analog, but only four results were returned.

Update: "xadrezistica" returns a few thousand results, so that appears to be correct.
  
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Reply #14 - 01/28/13 at 14:23:38
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échiquéen (masc), échiquéenne (fem) are correct French adjectives for "chess-related". Add "s" for plural in both cases.
  
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Re: How to say "chess publishing" in ...
Reply #13 - 01/28/13 at 13:05:55
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tony37 wrote on 01/27/13 at 17:01:27:
the word 'échiquier' exists, it's a chess board, but again I can't find échiquien in any dictionary

in Spanish the adjective 'ajedrecístico' exists, but I really wouldn't use this here, it sounds rather scientific


Not that scientific  Wink , we use ajedrecístico or ajedrecística (in romance languages usually adjetives have gender) for anything related to chess.

http://buscon.rae.es/drae/?type=3&val=ajedrec%C3%ADstico&val_aux=&origen=REDRAE

So publicación ajedrecística could do...but i like more how it sounds in english  Smiley
  
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Reply #12 - 01/27/13 at 22:13:39
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kylemeister wrote on 01/27/13 at 21:59:43:
but apparently échiquéen(ne) is on the order of ten times more common in books.

Then I suppose it must be correct, I'm probably influenced by échiquier (chess board) with an 'i'.
  
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Reply #11 - 01/27/13 at 21:59:43
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I notice that échiquien(ne) -- the spelling I thought of at first then figured I was wrong -- has been used in books, but apparently échiquéen(ne) is on the order of ten times more common in books.  Seems that the former may be an older form ...
  
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Re: How to say "chess publishing" in ...
Reply #10 - 01/27/13 at 21:47:02
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GMTonyKosten wrote on 01/27/13 at 21:11:23:
tony37 wrote on 01/27/13 at 17:35:30:
echiquéenne

I would have thought échiquienne was better, but I could easily be wrong! Embarrassed


Maybe so, but there is something called la Fédération Echiquéenne Francophone de Belgique located here: http://www.frbe-kbsb.be/fefb/

In any case, I can find no analogous word in Spanish or Portuguese.
  
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tony37 wrote on 01/27/13 at 17:35:30:
echiquéenne

I would have thought échiquienne was better, but I could easily be wrong! Embarrassed
  
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Reply #8 - 01/27/13 at 18:34:33
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In Polish "wydawnictwo szachowe"
  
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Re: How to say "chess publishing" in ...
Reply #7 - 01/27/13 at 17:35:30
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google finds some 1200 results for "revue echiquéenne" (I still don't find this adjective in a dictionary but it is used relatively frequently) and some 863000 results for "revue d'échecs"
I would still go for the latter

of course there's also the option of not translating it and still say "Chess Publishing", it is an english website after all you know, it wouldn't even cross my mind to translate it when I'm speaking in my native (dutch) language
  
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Re: How to say "chess publishing" in ...
Reply #6 - 01/27/13 at 17:15:45
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It might be more common in chess publications (like say Europe-Echecs, to which I used to subscribe) ...
  
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