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Reply #20 - 02/03/13 at 06:17:16
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I have had problems playing against the Vienna and often have chosen the exchange QGD instead. But I think it was mentioned at least in Pedersen and Burgess book on the Queens gambit by the Attacking Player from White's perspective (gave it away, can't check now).

Anyway, a book on it would be good, especially a complement to Barsky's book and also OP's Declining the QGD as well!
  
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Reply #19 - 02/02/13 at 23:49:34
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Stigma wrote on 02/02/13 at 22:35:06:
Looking at recent GM practice, maybe we should be waiting for the first (?) book-length treatment of the d2-d3 lines of the Ruy Lopez. I'm not even aware of an established name for the setup.


It has sometimes been called after Herman Pilnik.  Incidentally an IM is now doing a series of articles on it in NIC Yearbook, which I suppose is the most I've ever seen on it in one place.
  
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Reply #18 - 02/02/13 at 23:16:46
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LostTactic wrote on 02/02/13 at 15:23:37:
I'd like a King's Indian repertoire book that focuses on the Na6 variations. I like Bojkov's dvd but it lacks the detailed analysis a book can provide.


There's a book by Graham Burgess from around 20 years ago that gives some coverage " Kings Indian for the Attacking Player".

Review at http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/0713485663/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=U...

First published 1993 (Batsford) according to wikipedia
  
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Reply #17 - 02/02/13 at 22:35:06
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Looking at recent GM practice, maybe we should be waiting for the first (?) book-length treatment of the d2-d3 lines of the Ruy Lopez. I'm not even aware of an established name for the setup.

Surely Bogdan Lalic's book on the Queen's Gambit Declined (from around 2000) must have covered the Vienna. I don't have it in front of me to check though. But it certainly wasn't a full book on that line only. Hard to beat the Vienna in this contest!

The Argentinean and Archbishop attacks? There's just no tradition for whole books on the individual White systems against the Pirc. Where's the book on the Classical system with Be2? Or the Austrian attack? They are virtually always dealt with in the context of either a White repertoire, a Black repertoire, or a "complete" coverage of the Pirc.

Having said that, Vigus' chapters on the Be3 lines in TPIBAW, DW Pirc/Modern and Chess Developments: The Pirc would make a nice and quite comprehensive book if you ripped out the pages and bound them together  Smiley
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Reply #16 - 02/02/13 at 22:34:24
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It would seem hard for 1. Nf3 to lead to the Argentinean ...
  
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Reply #15 - 02/02/13 at 22:32:03
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IMJohnCox wrote on 02/02/13 at 21:58:42:

The Argentinean/150 Attack is a reasonable shout, but I'd still say the Vienna was far more respectable and well-established. And as far as I know there's been zero coverage of it. Zero. Not so much as a Schiller pamphlet. There might possibly be a chapter in Samarian's QGD book (those were the days; a single book on the entire QGD, including IIRC the Slav, semi-Slav, etc.), and of course the encyclopedias, but that's it.

I think there's coverage from the white side by Khalifman (Kramnik series) and by Kaufman
  
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Reply #14 - 02/02/13 at 22:12:38
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IMJohnCox wrote on 02/02/13 at 21:58:42:
And as far as I know there's been zero coverage of it. Zero. Not so much as a Schiller pamphlet. There might possibly be a chapter in Samarian's QGD book (those were the days; a single book on the entire QGD, including IIRC the Slav, semi-Slav, etc.), and of course the encyclopedias, but that's it.


Well as for such general works (and excluding things like NIC YB), I recall some stuff on the Vienna (at least in terms of MNb's definition, which is how I think of it) in Drazen Marovic's QG book of around 20 years ago. 
  
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Reply #13 - 02/02/13 at 22:06:21
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MNb wrote on 02/02/13 at 19:56:39:
[quote author=282C2B0E090F220E19610 link=1359811605/0#0 date=1359811605]....150-Attack (White plays Nf3 and Bd3) against the Pirc/Modern. Kasparov-Topalov, Wijk aan Zee 1999 often has been called the game of the century, but no opening manual ever has scrutinized its initial moves!


The 150 attack features in "A Killer Chess Opening Repertoire".  As it's a repertoire book, I suppose we can debate whether it counts or not, but at least you didn't suggest something that JC has actually written about himself  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #12 - 02/02/13 at 22:01:20
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I agree as well that if one were looking for book ideas (which I'm not, more of a bar bet) the ordinary Old Indian could be a good suggestion. It's not something 2700 players go in for half as often as 4...dxc4, though. It's a curious thing; how some openings are played all the time at high levels and barely at all at lower levels.
  
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Reply #11 - 02/02/13 at 21:58:42
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When I said the Vienna, I meant 1 d4 d5 2 c4 e6 3 Nf3 Nf6 4 Nc3 dxc4. I think MNb might be right that the sequence he gives is actually the Vienna, but 4...dxc4 is what everyone plays these days and people certainly call the Vienna, and White has a few moves besides 5 Bg5. I'm always a bit weak on these things - what exactly are the Ragozin/Manhattan/Westphalia variations, for example?

The Argentinean/150 Attack is a reasonable shout, but I'd still say the Vienna was far more respectable and well-established. And as far as I know there's been zero coverage of it. Zero. Not so much as a Schiller pamphlet. There might possibly be a chapter in Samarian's QGD book (those were the days; a single book on the entire QGD, including IIRC the Slav, semi-Slav, etc.), and of course the encyclopedias, but that's it.

There have been recent Quality GM Repertoire books on both the Tarrasch and the English without c5/e5, surely?
  
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Reply #10 - 02/02/13 at 20:06:31
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Interesting question, and until the Barsky book there was nothing on the Ragozin either was there? Strange.
  
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Reply #9 - 02/02/13 at 19:56:39
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IMJohnCox wrote on 02/02/13 at 13:26:45:
....is the most mainstream opening never to have had a book published on it in English?

It seems to me there's a fairly clear winner here; the Vienna variation of the Queen's Gambit Declined.

Second place at best. The winner definitely is the combination of the Argentinean Attack (White plays f3) and 150-Attack (White plays Nf3 and Bd3) against the Pirc/Modern. Kasparov-Topalov, Wijk aan Zee 1999 often has been called the game of the century, but no opening manual ever has scrutinized its initial moves!
The only sources I am aware of are the two chapters by James Vigus in Dangerous Weapons, tha rather sloppy chapter iin The Ultimate Pirc and golden oldies in German by Balashov and Rolf Schwartz. Go figure.

In my database there are more games (both players 2400+) after 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Be3 c6 5.Qd2 Bg7/b5 6.f3/6.Bd3 (neglecting move order issues like the Modern) than after 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bb4 5.Bg5 dxc4.
  

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Reply #8 - 02/02/13 at 19:53:31
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No, Barsky's book doesn't cover the Vienna. That variation must be the most poorly covered opening in the literature. And apart from the Semi-Tarrasch, the Tarrasch proper hasn't been covered comprehensively for decades either, even though it's been the subject of a few repertoire books. The same is true of English lines other than 1.c4 e5, 1.c4 c5 and 1.c4 b6 - there's been nothing there since Watson's books in the '80s.
Flear wrote a book on the Closed Ruy Lopez main lines not too long ago.
  
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Reply #7 - 02/02/13 at 19:11:40
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Doesn´t Barsky: The Ragozin Complex cover the whole stuff and is quite recent?
  

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Reply #6 - 02/02/13 at 18:49:49
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Steffen Pedersen did a good book on the Bogo some time back.  The Tartakower was covered by IM Cox himself, as well as by Janjgava and Konikowski.  The Vienna QGD is covered in general QGD books, but I can't recall a dedicated book on it.  Think its the winner.  

If looking for book ideas and not just settling a bar bet, the Old Indian could use a book.  The one just out featured e5-e4 and didn't cover the A55 lines.  There's an old Soltis pamphlet/book on it, but very dated now.  The Baltic too.  I have a small one by Soltis, another by SI editrice, and there's a chapter in Ward's Unusual QGD.  But nothing comprehensive (that also covers transpositions into the Slav).

I wouldn't mind a book dedicated to the QGD Exchange Variation.  There are chapters, of course, from both the White and Black side, and a ChessBase CD, but I'm not aware of a recent, comprehensive book.

The Bisguier/Chigorin Defense to the Ruy has been neglected (12..cxd4 13.cxd4 Bd7 a la Lasker-Lasker NY 1924). For that matter, so has the Breyer.  Kaufman covered it repertoire style, there's an old Blackstock effort, and an informant monograph, but no real book on it.  Shame too, since this could cover the Spassky, Fischer, Gligoric glory days and be a modern update.

Still waiting for a decent book on the Two Knights.  The Pinski and Beliavsky books didn't suffice.  Good treatment in Emms's old book, but repertoire style for Black.

The MacCutcheon is covered in many French books, but other than older ones -- Eade's "Remember," Harding and Lutes -- can't think of a dedicated volume. 


   
  
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