Normal Topic Best vs Seirawan's anti-NID 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Bg5 (Read 8276 times)
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Re: Best vs Seirawan's anti-NID 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Bg5
Reply #8 - 03/25/13 at 19:24:39
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As far as I know 3...h6 is the "standard" move order, though I've seen 3...Bb4+ 4. Nd2 h6 (and Seirawan-Portisch) cited as equal.
  
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Re: Best vs Seirawan's anti-NID 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Bg5
Reply #7 - 03/25/13 at 18:48:40
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I never buy chess videos, because I consider them inferior to any decent chess book, but what I know for sure is that John Cox in his excellent "Dealing with d4 deviations..." book (2005) showed the same line, though not especially turning the reader's attention on the exact move order (i.e. 3...h6, 4...Bb4).  Wink
  
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Re: Best vs Seirawan's anti-NID 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Bg5
Reply #6 - 03/25/13 at 14:37:44
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Vass wrote on 03/25/13 at 11:54:57:
Why am I posting the games above?
It is well known that the correspondence chess players use all the available sources when looking for information - books, databases etc.. In addition, most of them use computer engines too, so they can check their chosen moves with the powerful tools like Houdini, Rybka and alike..


Well, it could be mentioned that three of the four games transposed to the Nimzo, and the one that didn't looks to have been between a player rated in the 1800s (FIDE) and one in the 1600s (DWZ i.e. German), and on a website where engines aren't allowed.
 
Incidentally this was the second instance of "what should I play against 3. Bg5?" in the last couple of weeks -- was there a recent internet video advocating it or something?
  
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Re: Best vs Seirawan's anti-NID 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Bg5
Reply #5 - 03/25/13 at 12:54:53
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tony37 wrote on 03/25/13 at 12:42:17:
and what's the advantage of 3...h6 4.Bh4 Bb4+ versus 3...Bb4+ ?


Look at this one and you'll see:



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Re: Best vs Seirawan's anti-NID 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Bg5
Reply #4 - 03/25/13 at 12:42:17
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and what's the advantage of 3...h6 4.Bh4 Bb4+ versus 3...Bb4+ ?
  
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Re: Best vs Seirawan's anti-NID 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Bg5
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Why am I posting the games above?
It is well known that the correspondence chess players use all the available sources when looking for information - books, databases etc.. In addition, most of them use computer engines too, so they can check their chosen moves with the powerful tools like Houdini, Rybka and alike..
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Re: Best vs Seirawan's anti-NID 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Bg5
Reply #2 - 03/25/13 at 11:53:46
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Fully agree with what MNb wrote!  Cool

@ gramsci

You'll have to go through some games, for example: Avrukh-Gulko (Istanbul 2000), Seirawan-Andersson (Tilburg 1983), Sichinava-Rakhmanov (St Petersburg 2011), Dzagnidze-Hou (Beijing 2011). Abdulla-Neverov (Sautron 2001). All of these go like this 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 Nf6 3.Bg5 h6 4.Bh4 Bb4+ with the idea of c7-c5 next (4.Bxf6... or 4.Bf4... are considered to be inferior to 4.Bh4..., so making your repertoire against these moves would be easy for you).
In addition I'll post here some correspondence chess games that can't be easily found in the well known databases.
  
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Re: Best vs Seirawan's anti-NID 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Bg5
Reply #1 - 03/25/13 at 10:47:31
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3...h6. For information I refer you to the relevant games in a decent database.
  

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Best vs Seirawan's anti-NID 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Bg5
03/25/13 at 09:40:58
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There's a guy in my club that always avoids the NID this way. What do you think is the best to face 3.Bg5: 3...c5 a la Benoni, or 3...Bb4+ allowing white's 4.Nd2? Where I could find information?
  
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