BPaulsen wrote on 05/17/13 at 16:10:43:
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5 5.a3 Bxc3 6.bxc3 Qc7 7.Qg4 f5 8.Qg3 cxd4 9.cxd4 Ne7 10.Ne2! has been the main line for some time now, and black struggles. 7.Qg4 is not refuted, and this is common knowledge (white's key line was already mentioned in Watson's 3rd Play the French installment).
I was hoping for more information than this.
The idea was to transfer the theory of the approach from the theoretician to the thematic player... black struggles? This is chess, black always struggles but when compared to other lines in this line black has pre-made, thematic cures.
I've been playing the French (almost exclusively) for the last 12 years and I still haven't been defeated in TC longer than swiss
in this line.
MNb wrote on 05/17/13 at 17:09:33:
Quote:White's 7.Qg4 is dubious and can be "refuted" by means of theory.
Theory is good, practice is better.
You didn't consider 14.Bxa6 (more or less prevents Nb8-c6-a5) and the quite recent idea to play Bc8-d7-e8-g6.
Agreed, maybe I will but the idea was to talk about the problematic queen move by looking at the PS as opposed to calculating line after line after line till you find the "one best move" you'd never find in a real game anyway.
I find it more beneficial.
dom wrote on 05/17/13 at 18:10:55:
BPaulsen wrote on 05/17/13 at 16:10:43:
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5 5.a3 Bxc3 6.bxc3 Qc7 7.Qg4 f5 8.Qg3 cxd4 9.cxd4 Ne7 10.Ne2!
I had recorded same point of view many years ago:
A) after 9...Ne7! White has three main moves 10.c3, 10.Bd2 and 10.Ne2
B) 10.c3 oo (or 10...b6 with lines I never seen excepted the year I was granted chesspub member) 11.Ne2!? (other lines...are given by Watson in one of his numerous books) Nc6! (11..Ng6 Schmidt-Techner,Allemagne 1951) 12.h4 or 12.Nf4 +=
C) 10.Ne2 is often same as B)
D) 10.Bd2 the "old" main line.Black plays with ideas given above: trading light color bishops for some advantage on c-file and White has Nf4 attacking e6 hindering more counterplay. Eg: 10....oo 11.Bd3 b6 12.Ne2 Ba6 13.Nf4 Qd7 14.Bxa6 Nxa6 15.Qd3 Nc7 16.oo +=
All in all, most modern is 8.Qh5+ ...one more thread needed
I have Watson's book.
I have a collection of 32 books on the French but as I explained above the idea was to look at the structure in accordance to the plan(s).
In the future I plan to write about the structure of the exchanged line, specifically where black plays ...Bd6 | ...Ne7 and ...c6. I have played this line almost exclusively the past 12 years (about 50% of my French games are in the ex line!) and putting aside Blitz and Standard on-line games at 4am I haven't lost a single game in the ex line in my life and despite people's opinions of its alleged equality black wins more than white!
But yeah, I'll finish writing it in a few weeks or months... work keeps us busy