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ErictheRed God Member Offline USCF National Master Posts: 2534 Location: USA Joined: 10/02/05	Re: Various ...b5-gambits after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 Reply #6 - 06/13/13 at 01:33:41	Post Tools	Print Post
	MNb wrote on 06/13/13 at 00:08:50: Why should this be a problem for someone who plays the NID/Blumenfeld combo anymore than for someone who plays say the Lasker Defence or Tartakower?! Is there anything preventing Black from adopting something active like the recommendation of IM John Cox? Of course you're right MNb; I meant that in the context of the original post, there's no "early ...b7-b5 to undermine the c-pawn" line in the Catalan. Nothing like 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.b3 b5, even. From a practical perspective as well, it would be nice to combine 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 c5 4.g3 with 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.Nf3. After 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.d5 Black can of course also just play the Modern Benoni, which IMO is probably best and only one Benoni line for Black to learn (I don't trust 4.d5 exd5 5.exd5 b5).


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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10777 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: Various ...b5-gambits after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 Reply #5 - 06/13/13 at 00:08:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	Why should this be a problem for someone who plays the NID/Blumenfeld combo anymore than for someone who plays say the Lasker Defence or Tartakower?! Is there anything preventing Black from adopting something active like the recommendation of IM John Cox?

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ErictheRed God Member Offline USCF National Master Posts: 2534 Location: USA Joined: 10/02/05	Re: Various ...b5-gambits after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 Reply #4 - 06/12/13 at 22:12:04	Post Tools	Print Post
	tony37 wrote on 06/08/13 at 17:23:38: the following are also 'b5-lines' but not all are gambits: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.d5 exd5 5.exd5 b5 Has this become playable again? The recent statistics are absolutely dreadful, though it's been a while since Avrukh's book was published and I presume that theory has moved on since. It's a problem for people wanting to play a Nimzo/Blumenfeld repertoire.


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TalJechin God Member Offline There is no secret ingredient. Posts: 2892 Location: Malmö Joined: 08/12/04 Gender:	Re: Various ...b5-gambits after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 Reply #3 - 06/08/13 at 18:17:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	My first thought was the Vitolinsh gambit in the Nimzo vs 4.Qc2, then I found another list of gambits: http://www.vikingskak.dk/GambiteersGuild/Gambits/d4Nf6.htm


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tony37 God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 619 Joined: 10/16/10	Re: Various ...b5-gambits after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 Reply #2 - 06/08/13 at 17:23:38	Post Tools	Print Post
	the following are also 'b5-lines' but not all are gambits: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.d5 exd5 5.exd5 b5 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.f3 c5 5.d5 b5 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Ba6 5.b3 b5


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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4989 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: Various ...b5-gambits after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 Reply #1 - 06/08/13 at 17:18:44	Post Tools	Print Post
	In the 4. e3 Nimzo a possibility is 4...O-O 5. Bd3 c5 6. d5 b5 (played by Karpov against Korchnoi).


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nocteus Full Member Offline 'Help your pieces, they will help you.' Morphy Posts: 140 Joined: 04/29/11	Various ...b5-gambits after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 06/08/13 at 17:14:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	I am currently exploring the idea of gambitting the b5-pawn after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 (so no Benko). The Blumenfeld of course: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 c5 4.d5 b5. In the Nimzo : Leningrad 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Bg5 h6 5.Bh4 c5 6.d5 b5, and Classical 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Qc2 0-0 5.a3 Bxc3 6.Qxc3 b5. Do you know more lines implementing this idea? Whether it be in the Nimzo, the QID, the Bogo, the Benoni, the Ragozin maybe... Do not forget in the Catalan-like lines (after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3) if you know any! thx!


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