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Re: The Most Successfull Anti-Sicilian Player (Black)
Reply #5 - 07/12/13 at 11:40:43
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Bonsai wrote on 07/11/13 at 22:11:10:
I thought it's an interesting question and had a look. I looked at 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5, because I've always been wondering a bit on what to play against that (let me know if you have a pet system you love). 

Quite an impressive collection of players appears to be there for 3...e6:
Teimour Radjabov Result=20/29 
Evgeny Sveshnikov Result=45.5/85 
Alexander Moiseenko Result=31/52 
Igor Miladinovic Result=27/41 
Bojan Kurajica Result=23.5/36 
Ruslan Sherbakov Result=22.5/40 
Zenon Franco Ocampos Result=21/31 
Alexander Cherniaev Result=21/35 

Also quite impressive for 3...d6 (incl. transpositions via 2...d6 3.Bb5+ Nc6):
Veselin Topalov Result=11/17 
Sergei Tiviakov Result=46.5/86 
Sergei Movsesian Result=25/41 
Vlastimil Babula Result=24/38 
Andrei Kharlov Result=23/44 
Georgy Timoshenko Result=20.5/34 
Aleksandr Veingold Result=18.5/27 
Sergey Kalinitschew Result=17.5/25 
Lev Gutman Result=17/25 

We have on the black side for 3...g6:
Vyacheslav Ikonnikov Result=37.5/58 
Zigurds Lanka Result=36/53 
Vasilios Kotronias Result=27.5/43 
Vadim Shishkin Result=26.5/41 
Yuri Yakovich Result=24/51 
Peter K Wells Result=23/36 
Vladimir Georgiev Result=19/30 
George Gabriel Grigore Result=19/33 

I guess 3...Nf6 has not been popular for long enough to attract similar long-term practioners...

Oh! Thx for your effort!
I think that 3...d6 is the most flexible move because you can play either e5 (also in e6 you tend to play d6 and e5 a lot) or the Bg4 (with f6 and e6) or g6 plans (e6 is also flexible but less)! The big diasadvatage of this move is that you delay the development of the kingside and the king is meantime in the centre longer than other moves, therefore, you need to be more prepare in the d6 lines to an early attacking and dangerous lines.
So, I will analyse the games of the 9 players in the d6 lines (I  also study the analyas in the book Expert VS The Anti-Sicilian) ! Thx again!
What with other lines (c3 crusher , Tiviakov GP)?
  
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Re: The Most Successfull Anti-Sicilian Player (Black)
Reply #4 - 07/11/13 at 22:11:10
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I thought it's an interesting question and had a look. I looked at 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5, because I've always been wondering a bit on what to play against that (let me know if you have a pet system you love). 

Quite an impressive collection of players appears to be there for 3...e6:
Teimour Radjabov Result=20/29 
Evgeny Sveshnikov Result=45.5/85 
Alexander Moiseenko Result=31/52 
Igor Miladinovic Result=27/41 
Bojan Kurajica Result=23.5/36 
Ruslan Sherbakov Result=22.5/40 
Zenon Franco Ocampos Result=21/31 
Alexander Cherniaev Result=21/35 

Also quite impressive for 3...d6 (incl. transpositions via 2...d6 3.Bb5+ Nc6):
Veselin Topalov Result=11/17 
Sergei Tiviakov Result=46.5/86 
Sergei Movsesian Result=25/41 
Vlastimil Babula Result=24/38 
Andrei Kharlov Result=23/44 
Georgy Timoshenko Result=20.5/34 
Aleksandr Veingold Result=18.5/27 
Sergey Kalinitschew Result=17.5/25 
Lev Gutman Result=17/25 

We have on the black side for 3...g6:
Vyacheslav Ikonnikov Result=37.5/58 
Zigurds Lanka Result=36/53 
Vasilios Kotronias Result=27.5/43 
Vadim Shishkin Result=26.5/41 
Yuri Yakovich Result=24/51 
Peter K Wells Result=23/36 
Vladimir Georgiev Result=19/30 
George Gabriel Grigore Result=19/33 

I guess 3...Nf6 has not been popular for long enough to attract similar long-term practioners...
  
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Re: The Most Successfull Anti-Sicilian Player (Black)
Reply #3 - 07/11/13 at 13:18:38
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Of course. But if you've got a database with the games then it should very easily answer those questions via a report on who's played a given position frequently, who's scored well etc etc.

If you don't then I'm not sure who you'll get the games Smiley To be fair maybe some of the online databases don't do this sort of search.
  
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Re: The Most Successfull Anti-Sicilian Player (Black)
Reply #2 - 07/11/13 at 12:29:59
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The point is that It's no so easy as It look: not every GM is an anti-sicilian expert and not every GM meet a large range of anti-sicilians! maybe you know one?
  
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Re: The Most Successfull Anti-Sicilian Player (Black)
Reply #1 - 07/11/13 at 11:26:17
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Isn't the basic question of most sucessful very easy to sort with a database source? Any strong GM who's played against the given anti quite a bit and scored well really.
(Or even best Wink)

You might struggle a bit to find huge numbers of games with two good GMs except in 2 .. Nc6 3 Bb5.
  
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The Most Successfull Anti-Sicilian Player (Black)
07/11/13 at 10:19:37
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Hi opening expert!
I'm sicilian Kalashnikov player and I want to study the  games of a great successfull black GM
who has a great reputation of an anti-sicilian's (Bb5,c3, Nc3&Bb5 etc.) crusher!
Who you know and recommend? thx!
  
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