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Anand by +3    
  1 (1.3%)
Anand by +2    
  1 (1.3%)
Anand by +1    
  11 (14.1%)
The Match is Drawn    
  1 (1.3%)
Carlsen by +1    
  25 (32.1%)
Carlsen by +2    
  30 (38.5%)
Carlsen by +3    
  6 (7.7%)
Anand by more than +3    
  0 (0.0%)
Carlsen by more than +3    
  3 (3.8%)




Total votes: 78
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #28 - 11/09/13 at 16:06:38
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Keano wrote on 11/09/13 at 16:01:43:
Not a chance mate, did you look at the game, he was in trouble around move 10. 


Yea, I looked at the game. I think "in trouble" is a bit of an exaggeration. Though you are right of course, black got a slight initiative. However, what you say implies that we've seen all Carlsen has to show. I can't quite believe that...
  
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Reply #27 - 11/09/13 at 16:01:43
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Pale Horse, Pale Rider wrote on 11/09/13 at 15:57:14:
Probably Smyslov_Fan is right and Carlsen just went for a draw today to start into this match ...


Not a chance mate, did you look at the game, he was in trouble around move 10. If he was going for a draw he didnt make a very good job of it.

Carlsen will not be looking for opening battles, just to get a long game and try to squeeze out some wins.

I think Anand will have too much class for him though.
  
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #26 - 11/09/13 at 15:57:14
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gewgaw wrote on 11/09/13 at 15:51:54:
This was Anand's best chance winning a game, now he will suffer.


The question is wether this game is representative for the players' preparation or not. If Carlsen hasn't more to show opening wise it will be very complicated for him. But i think this is not very likely, he has to have some more concrete ideas than that. Probably Smyslov_Fan is right and Carlsen just went for a draw today to start into this match ...
  
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #25 - 11/09/13 at 15:51:54
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This was Anand's best chance winning a game, now he will suffer.
  

The older, the better - over 2200 and still rising.
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Reply #24 - 11/09/13 at 15:47:30
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And I still believe Anand will win by a point! He is looking in good shape as I predicted.
  
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #23 - 11/09/13 at 15:43:13
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I think both players will be satisfied with today's result. This is the first long match that Carlsen has ever played. He wanted a draw to settle his nerves. He's comfortable playing for a win as Black. Anand equalised easily and perhaps even had a slight edge out of the opening, so Anand will be happy. 

While the match is hardly ideal, twelve games is long enough for the better player to demonstrate superiority most of the time. Carlsen has plenty of time to find some wins.

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I still believe Carlsen is likely to win by two points, but I have more reason to hope that Anand will surpass expectations.
  
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Reply #22 - 11/09/13 at 15:42:15
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I think Anand should've played on at the end actually, I've been looking at it and its not that easy to handle for White.

Hope he doesn't regret it later.
  
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Reply #21 - 11/09/13 at 15:28:24
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I'm not sure wether Anand left preparation today or not. I think this has to be interpreted as a huge succes for Anand I think. Not only dictating a draw with black but Carlsen didn't have achance to create a complicated middle game position. Feels more like 0.4:0.6 than 0.5:0.5 ...
  
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Reply #20 - 11/09/13 at 13:46:39
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A very consistent record of WC debutants getting overawed and losing in the first game though, so not that unreasonable to play a quiet game out.
(Although obviously he'd ideally have wanted more than that!)
  
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Reply #19 - 11/09/13 at 13:46:15
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Keano wrote on 11/09/13 at 13:16:31:
Yes very comfortable game for Anand, he could even have played on at the end.

Only game 1, but Carlsen will need to make better use of the White pieces than this, its a short match.


Or he could play to win with Black too, as he tends to do anyway...
  
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Reply #18 - 11/09/13 at 13:16:31
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Yes very comfortable game for Anand, he could even have played on at the end.

Only game 1, but Carlsen will need to make better use of the White pieces than this, its a short match.
  
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #17 - 11/09/13 at 13:10:54
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A short draw in game 1 today:

  
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #16 - 10/23/13 at 10:13:50
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LeeRoth wrote on 10/22/13 at 17:59:20:

The best thing that Anand has going for him is that the match is only 12 games long.  That's too short to decide a World Championship.  If Anand can score earlyand hang on for a bit, that has the potential to change the whole dynamic.     


Yes, ridiculous number of games for a World ch match but thats the modern world for you. Either player is capable of winning a couple of games early on and winning the match comfortably.
  
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #15 - 10/22/13 at 17:59:20
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The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong . . . but that's the way to bet.  My money's on Magnus.  He's younger, hungrier, and higher rated.  

I don't think Magnus's lack of match experience will make much difference here.  They still have to play each game one at a time.  And Magnus doesn't seem to be the type to worry so much about match strategy that he psyches himself out.

I don't think the venue will matter either way.  These guys are both pros.

The best thing that Anand has going for him is that the match is only 12 games long.  That's too short to decide a World Championship.  If Anand can score earlyand hang on for a bit, that has the potential to change the whole dynamic.          
  
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #14 - 10/13/13 at 08:36:52
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Maybe TN will be right after all... Any updates on the news of that super cyclone on its way to India? According to some sources the cyclone is the size of half the country.
  
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