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Anand by +3    
  1 (1.3%)
Anand by +2    
  1 (1.3%)
Anand by +1    
  11 (14.1%)
The Match is Drawn    
  1 (1.3%)
Carlsen by +1    
  25 (32.1%)
Carlsen by +2    
  30 (38.5%)
Carlsen by +3    
  6 (7.7%)
Anand by more than +3    
  0 (0.0%)
Carlsen by more than +3    
  3 (3.8%)




Total votes: 78
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #43 - 11/10/13 at 20:57:54
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Me thinks Carlsen will keep switching openings, so here's a prediction for next two games:

G.3: 1.c4
G.4: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6

  
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Reply #42 - 11/10/13 at 17:20:16
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the match is a disappoinment so far ...

well, it's a match! they tend to be on the boring side
  
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Reply #41 - 11/10/13 at 15:49:53
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Some excellent coverage of the match:

http://parimarjan.in/blog/
  

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Reply #40 - 11/10/13 at 14:47:19
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I thought that was an interesting game. Very good play by both players, Qg4 must be the critical move but Qxd5 is very safe.

Of course we'd love to see a longer game though!
  
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Reply #39 - 11/10/13 at 14:03:01
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the match is a disappoinment so far ...

if this match ends up like anand gelfand ..
I am finished with watching wchs ...

same as boxing with klitschko ... u always think an interesting fight will come up, but nothing really happens ... just media attention that makes you watch the match
  
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Reply #38 - 11/10/13 at 11:37:01
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Game 2 - Anand takes revenge for Carlsen forcing a draw yesterday Smiley

  
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #37 - 11/10/13 at 10:44:28
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HgMan wrote on 11/09/13 at 20:06:41:
I expect we'll see another short draw again tomorrow and that the real match will begin—nerves calmed—on Tuesday.


I hope you're right on the Tuesday part too!
  
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Reply #36 - 11/09/13 at 23:42:54
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The key mistake was Carlsen playing Nbc3 instead of the more conservative Nbd2.

But this was only a mistake because Anand had the whole line worked out (despite his craftiness in the press conference not letting on).

Anand played ...dxc4! and ...Nb6! very quickly when he had the safe boring alternative ...Ne4

It is early days, but I see Anand very sharp and prepared for anything.
  
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Reply #35 - 11/09/13 at 22:54:56
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still carlsen should have gone for c4 instead of b3 just as I should have done, thus transfering the game into a gruenfeld instead of a subpar opening where black is almost better

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carlsen almost played the opening in similar bad way like I did

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1382391481

ya know, I am a bit out of form right now, that's why I played this shit ... but carlsen almost played the same s*** in a wch match, I can't help myself ... why is he doing that???


Carlsen didn't play b3 until after Black played ...c6; it's not the same.  Carlsen basically had an extra tempo compared to your game.  

  
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Reply #34 - 11/09/13 at 22:24:35
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I think Anand will have too much class for him though.


I agree, playing a singel game and a 12 game match is a huge difference, I belive Anands chances for this match is greatly underrated. Now I hope I do not have to eat those words in the end.
  
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carlsen almost played the opening in similar bad way like I did

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1382391481

ya know, I am a bit out of form right now, that's why I played this shit ... but carlsen almost played the same s*** in a wch match, I can't help myself ... why is he doing that???


Carlsen didn't play b3 until after Black played ...c6; it's not the same.  Carlsen basically had an extra tempo compared to your game.   
  
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #32 - 11/09/13 at 20:06:41
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I expect we'll see another short draw again tomorrow and that the real match will begin—nerves calmed—on Tuesday.
  

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Reply #31 - 11/09/13 at 19:34:19
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carlsen almost played the opening in similar bad way like I did

http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1382391481

ya know, I am a bit out of form right now, that's why I played this shit ... but carlsen almost played the same s*** in a wch match, I can't help myself ... why is he doing that???
  
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #30 - 11/09/13 at 18:24:47
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You may be right, but the image of Carlsen not being well-versed in the openings is not really true. Take a look at his repertoire with the Black pieces. He has a very solid, very respectable opening repertoire based on the QID/Nimzo-Indian against 1.d4 and the Spanish against 1.e4. Sure, he can play anything, but he tends to rely on those set-ups in games that matter.

As white, he will play anything. That doesn't mean he's unaware of theory. There have been games where he came up with strong novelties 15-20 moves down the line against a specialist in the opening. He knows his openings. They aren't his strong suit, but he knows what he's doing.

The real question is whether he has anything special prepared in the openings that he will spring on Anand in this match.
  
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Re: WCH 2013 Anand - Carlsen
Reply #29 - 11/09/13 at 16:09:26
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Carlsen has never been an openings man.

His strength is squeezing blood out of a stone, and his rating has sky rocketed with this approach, but I think he is vastly over-rated and this match will be the test of my theory.

  
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