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Re: World Championship interviews
Reply #34 - 11/25/13 at 09:03:05
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I agree with LostTactic, but more than that...I don't think it shows a lack of class at all. A lack of class would have been using an expletive.

I'm not sure it's an "excellent question" either. Obviously, he did try to calculate all the variations as far as humanely possible.
  

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Reply #33 - 11/25/13 at 08:54:22
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LostTactic wrote on 11/24/13 at 22:48:55:
It's probably worth saying what Anand actually said for those who don't know. His response to Anastasia's question about whether he was analysing during his 40 minute think (on move 28) was: "I was thinking of what to eat tonight". It was discussed briefly on chess.com's aftergame show for game 9 by; IM Daniel Rensch, GM Ben Finegold and journalist Peter Doggers. They all thought it was a humorous response given what happened in the game. Personally I thought it was a stupid question in the first place. What is he suppose to say? "Yes I was analysing during those 40mins". I think Anastasia realised herself after Anand's response it was a dumb question.


You are trying to defend the indefensible, it was an excellent question by Anastasia and pure lack of class from Anand.

This was Anastasia's exact question: "But actually you spent also a lot of time after this ...b3 move. Did you try really to calculate all these complications, all these variations, until the end somehow, or this was possible?"

Anand "No I was thinking what to eat tonight"

  
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Re: World Championship interviews
Reply #32 - 11/24/13 at 22:49:06
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Getting fired at the end is an afterthought to the competition itself, and is functionally no different from placing a huge bet on a sporting competition and losing. Coaches are absolutely nothing without players to play the game, but the opposite is not true (the games would still go on with just athletes, albeit with lower quality). They are limited in their influence in comparison to the people actually competing. As an analogy, generals do not, and cannot, feel loss the same way soldiers in the trenches do. Now, there are athletes that handle press conferences well after losses, and those are what Anand should be compared to. Coaches hold no water as a measuring stick. One of the reasons players later turned coaches have always been popular is because of their ability to sympathize with the trials and tribulations their charges are going through from their own past experiences, but I am not aware of ANY coach that makes the claim they feel the loss equally to their players; the nature of their loss is different.
  

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Re: World Championship interviews
Reply #31 - 11/24/13 at 22:48:55
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It's probably worth saying what Anand actually said for those who don't know. His response to Anastasia's question about whether he was analysing during his 40 minute think (on move 28) was: "I was thinking of what to eat tonight". It was discussed briefly on chess.com's aftergame show for game 9 by; IM Daniel Rensch, GM Ben Finegold and journalist Peter Doggers. They all thought it was a humorous response given what happened in the game. Personally I thought it was a stupid question in the first place. What is he suppose to say? "Yes I was analysing during those 40mins". I think Anastasia realised herself after Anand's response it was a dumb question.
  
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Re: World Championship interviews
Reply #30 - 11/24/13 at 21:13:50
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>What does Anand's being 43 have to do with his responses to annoying questions, after extremely painful losses in a wch match. 

Well, he's a grown-up, that's all. Behaviour which might be excusable in a 21-year old isn't in a grown-up.

I also think B.Paulsen is entirely wrong about who feels losses most; managers or players. In European football it's notoriously the managers, specially since they're the ones who get sacked.
  
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Reply #29 - 11/24/13 at 14:40:31
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3 cheers to Magnus Carlsen from my part! Our style of play is deifferent but I always enjoyed and found somewhat inspiring his games..

Maybe the match was not so 'easy' or 'straightforward' as many people imply here - don't forget that Carlsen had no previous experience in playing a WCh..
  

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Reply #28 - 11/24/13 at 07:35:02
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To an extend Carlsen tittle reminds me of Federer in tennis. Before Federer you had to have an irresistible serve to make it. Federer showed that more was possible. 

In chess Kasparov made opening prep all important. Kramnik had to come up with some clever opening prep to stop Kasparov. Topalov, whilst no real WC, also depended on opening prep at his height. Even Anand stepped up his opening prep to become WC. Carlsen just seems to be content just lobbing the ball over the net in the opening and to return the ball over and over until the opponent makes an error (Nadal?).   

Disclaimer: Kasparov and other players are also very good at the other parts of the game.
  
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Re: World Championship interviews
Reply #27 - 11/24/13 at 07:27:57
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ghenghisclown wrote on 11/24/13 at 02:56:32:
trw wrote on 11/23/13 at 21:20:45:
Congrats to Carlsen. Does anyone else feel like this match was a little overhyped?



I do. It turned out to be about exhausting an out of form Anand.


Well I think Anand pinned his hopes on getting an advantage out of the opening. When that didn't happen he kind of let Carlsen get in his head. Anish Giri noticed that Anand seemed to underestimate his middlegame prospects in the early part of the match.   
  
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Re: World Championship interviews
Reply #26 - 11/24/13 at 05:53:35
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ErictheRed wrote on 11/24/13 at 02:38:09:

I disagree, in football (especially college football), the coaches are the franchise.  The players turn over every 3-4 years, but the coaches are often building a program.  Additionally in football as opposed to tennis, for instance, the coaches are intimately involved with the game, often calling the plays (on offense or defense, depending on background), calling timeouts, etc.  They don't just train athletes and then tell them to go play, they're intimately involved with the game.


Intimately involved isn't tantamount to actually playing the game. Players play, coaches watch from the sideline. That isn't to denigrate their coach, or their athletic trainers (the ones that put them in the shape to do their best out there), but the glory and shame lies more with the competitors on the field than it ever will with the coach.
  

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Reply #25 - 11/24/13 at 02:56:32
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trw wrote on 11/23/13 at 21:20:45:
Congrats to Carlsen. Does anyone else feel like this match was a little overhyped?



I do. It turned out to be about exhausting an out of form Anand.
  

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Reply #24 - 11/24/13 at 02:38:09
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BPaulsen wrote on 11/23/13 at 20:19:04:


Coaches are more like generals in that they don't obtain the visceral experience of the actual competition.

Have you ever felt a loss as painfully for a chess student as yourself?


I disagree, in football (especially college football), the coaches are the franchise.  The players turn over every 3-4 years, but the coaches are often building a program.  Additionally in football as opposed to tennis, for instance, the coaches are intimately involved with the game, often calling the plays (on offense or defense, depending on background), calling timeouts, etc.  They don't just train athletes and then tell them to go play, they're intimately involved with the game.

But it doesn't really matter; I've heard athletes give more-or-less the same speech I paraphrased above.  I know that Anand must have felt awful at times, but there's not much excuse for his snippy "I was thinking of what I would eat for dinner" comment.  If he didn't like the question he could have dismissed it much more politely, and he could have praised/thanked his fans at multiple times instead of saying "if someone says something important on social media that I should know about, my team will tell me."  How hard is it to just say "I'm very thankful for the support that my fans have shown me throughout my career"?   
  
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Re: World Championship interviews
Reply #23 - 11/23/13 at 21:36:40
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So much to say, don't no where to start, so I'll try to keep it brief.

A) Carlsen is indeed the best player of his generation.

B) Is Carlsen the best player of all time, this would be better answered at the end of his career.

C) His moves correlate with engines more than the Champions of the past because he trains with them and that has inevitably factored into his thought process and style. Run Fischer's immortal game through a strong engine, the results will blow your mind.

D) I think both players handled the post game press conferences as well as could be reasonably expected under the circumstances. Could you imagine a Kasparov vs Ivanchuk Wch match where press conferences were required after every game, and with provocative questions being asked. 

E) @ John Cox - What does Anand's being 43 have to do with his responses to annoying questions, after extremely painful losses in a wch match. The strain of the whole world watching live, critiquing every move with engine analysis and evaluations, coupled with the pressure of playing at home with all the expectations that entails, and finally not being able to show your best form is enough for anyone to snap in a post game press conference. 

F) Before he lost a game and was in a better mood, Anand gave one of the most clever responses to a Reporter's dumb post game question that i've heard in the match. If memory serves, the exchange went roughly something like this:

REPORTER: Mr. Anand could you tell us what you think Carlsen's weaknesses are, and how you and your team intend to exploit them going forward.

Anand: I'm flattered that you think that I would answer such a question. Smiley         

That was priceless, so much so that in a later interview Carlsen adopted the same answer to an equally inappropriate question.

G) Odds are Carlsen would have won this match in the end anyway, but it has to be said that Anand's loss was more self inflicted than a result of being outplayed. The two early games that Anand lost, should have been drawn and he should not have lost game 9 either. It would have been interesting to see how Carlsen would have rebounded had Anand won game 3 and took the early lead, especially as Carlsen's opening play in this match was distinctly unimpressive. Nevertheless hindsight is 20/20, and what is done is done, the match is over.   

I now keenly look forward to future battles between Carlsen and whoever emerges from the elite to challenge him. I'm also very interested to see how Anand proceeds from here, as he is still a very strong player, quite capable of a successsful comeback if motivated, even at 43 years young.

Nothing left for me to say now except congratulations to Magnus, and long live the new king.

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Reply #22 - 11/23/13 at 21:20:45
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Congrats to Carlsen. Does anyone else feel like this match was a little overhyped?
  
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Reply #21 - 11/23/13 at 20:20:02
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I agree, it is nonsense. There's no rule or convention that says you have to stay at the board.

I don't want to re-litigate Toilet gate...but Kramnik was and is a great player. In my view, He and Aronian are the only ones, really, that can challenge our newly-crowned Champ.
  

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Reply #20 - 11/23/13 at 20:19:04
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ErictheRed wrote on 11/23/13 at 19:07:10:
I disagree, I've seen a lot of very respectful, professional interviews from football coaches after big losses.  "Well we thought we had a good gameplan, but we didn't execute properly, we made some mistakes, had some miscues, and I have to give it the other team, they took every advantage.  They executed well and got penetration on the line of scrimmage, I can't say too much until I look more closely at the film, but we'll take a look and see whether our problem was with fundamentals or missed presnap assignments.  Give the other team credit, they unveiled some things we haven't seen this season so far and we weren't able to make the proper adjustment, but we'll keep working and get these things corrected, we have a great team and I'm proud with the way we competed, need to address some of these issues, communicate better on defense, check into the proper routes, identify blitzes more accurately..." blah blah blah.


Coaches are more like generals in that they don't obtain the visceral experience of the actual competition.

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