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Reply #49 - 11/25/13 at 20:29:12
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IMJohnCox wrote on 11/25/13 at 17:46:55:
A simple 'no' would have sufficed.

Honestly, any European with any interest in sport will know you're wrong. I don't care what goes on in powerlifting or other individual sports. Anyone who follows football will tell you that as a general rule the person who feels defeat the most vividly is the manager; indeed, you can hardly move at any fans` forum for complaints about the players being overpaid mercenaries and lacking passion.

Soccer is not some unique team sport compared to other sports. I wasn't just talking about individual sports, either, and you know it. American football is a team sport, and I mentioned both playing it and working with athletes that played it at a higher level. Lacrosse is also a team sport, and I worked with athletes from that too. As for forums - I am a member at the Arizona Cardinals forum (fan of that historically terrible team since I was 5 years old), and I am well aware of the flack coaches/general managers/owners get as a fan of a team, and you aren't telling me a damn thing I don't already know. Compete in something, coach that same something, then come back and talk to me about what you know; only then will we be having this conversation on a level playing field. Until then, drop the attitude. Thanks.
  

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Reply #48 - 11/25/13 at 20:15:46
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Yeah we're veering off, and I think the thread will probably die soon.  Regardless of how good of an analogy a football coach giving a post-game interview is, I used it as an example of how to politely respond to difficult questions.  Anand could certainly have done better.  

Probably tennis is a better analogy; it's (usually) a 1 vs 1 sport, and the coaches are more trainers as in chess.  Football is a little different because the coaches are actually involved during the game, calling plays etc., whereas in chess the players can't communicate with anyone during play.  

In any event, perhaps the format was more to blame than anything else.  For one, the players were actually seated right beside each other in the press conference, and it might have been better to have them sit on opposite sides of the moderator, for instance.  Maybe the emotions wouldn't have been as high then, and perhaps it would have been better if the players had been given more time after the completion of the game before having to talk to the press.  On the other hand I can see that they don't want to sit around too long after the game is over.

A well-coached quarterback will often give the same sort of speech I paraphrased above after a loss, praise his opponent, praise his teammates, and take a large portion of the blame himself.  I'm just really surprised that someone of Anand's stature, who has been the World Champion for years now, could not have been briefed and prepared a little bit more on what to say in interviews.  No snippy sarcastic comments, praise and thank your fans, etc.  

Maybe it's a cultural thing too; I don't know.  But sadly, my opinion of Anand dropped a bit watching the interviews.   

Once he scored his first win, Carlsen appeared very confident in post-game interviews, and his body language may even have suggested some cockiness.  But his actual words were all very respectful and polite, he wasn't baited into answering the question about a new era, etc.  He seemed prepared to face the press while Anand did not.
  
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Re: World Championship interviews
Reply #47 - 11/25/13 at 20:10:22
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kylemeister wrote on 11/25/13 at 19:42:49:
For the record, the young woman in question is a WGM (which is of course comparable to FM).


Exactly right, Anastasia is the best of all the interviewers I have seen in these post-match conferences. She is very bright and astute as well as a good chessplayer in her own right, able to handle the hoard of reporters and keep them quiet, and very diplomatic also. 

What Anand did was uncalled for, and anybody that tries to say otherwise is simply wrong.

I was frankly shocked. I understood that he had suffered a painful loss, but that kind of response was frankly the lowest of the low.

If I was the sponsor or whoever organised the contracts I would have a word with him, because he cast chess in a bad light there.
  
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Reply #46 - 11/25/13 at 19:42:49
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For the record, the young woman in question is a WGM (which is of course comparable to FM).
  
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Re: World Championship interviews
Reply #45 - 11/25/13 at 19:20:51
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Don't blame the players too much.  Handling a press conference well is a difficult thing to do.

And the FIDE press officer didn't help matters any.  

All in all, the post-game press conferences were amateurish
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it really is a crying shame because if you ever want chess to get to the next level, you can't squander opportunities like this one.

The young woman at the interview desk with the players was a poor choice by FIDE or whomever. I gather she was chosen because she speaks a variety of languages; and I presume she has a FIDE Elo rating?

But her personality or demeanor had no authority and no energy. Occasionally she needed to kinda get between the reporter and the two chess stars and re-ask a question in a better phrasing or in a more energetic way, and to perhaps coax a short conversation.

Carlsen seeks endorsement money, yet he behaves in an exceptionally dull manner at this world-wide press conference. Anybody can turn on the charm for 15 minutes with a little effort. He does not have to answer the exact question that was asked, and instead he can touch on it then veer into any interesting thing about the game or the match.

Tiger Woods has made ten times more money through endorsements than from golf tournament winner's checks.

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Reply #44 - 11/25/13 at 17:48:00
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Have you ever even *heard* of Sir Alex Ferguson, for example? Honestly?
  
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Reply #43 - 11/25/13 at 17:46:55
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A simple 'no' would have sufficed.

Honestly, any European with any interest in sport will know you're wrong. I don't care what goes on in powerlifting or other individual sports. Anyone who follows football will tell you that as a general rule the person who feels defeat the most vividly is the manager; indeed, you can hardly move at any fans’ forum for complaints about the players being overpaid mercenaries and lacking passion.
  
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Re: World Championship interviews
Reply #42 - 11/25/13 at 17:28:10
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IMJohnCox wrote on 11/25/13 at 10:18:20:
BPaulsen wrote on 11/24/13 at 22:49:06:
Getting fired at the end is an afterthought to the competition itself, and is functionally no different from placing a huge bet on a sporting competition and losing. Coaches are absolutely nothing without players to play the game, but the opposite is not true (the games would still go on with just athletes, albeit with lower quality). They are limited in their influence in comparison to the people actually competing. As an analogy, generals do not, and cannot, feel loss the same way soldiers in the trenches do. Now, there are athletes that handle press conferences well after losses, and those are what Anand should be compared to. Coaches hold no water as a measuring stick. One of the reasons players later turned coaches have always been popular is because of their ability to sympathize with the trials and tribulations their charges are going through from their own past experiences, but I am not aware of ANY coach that makes the claim they feel the loss equally to their players; the nature of their loss is different.


In that case I'm afraid you're just massively ignorant. Do you know *anything* about football?

I played (american) football when I was younger. I trained some Division 2 athletes (football players, lacrosse, and even a pole vaulter) as a personal trainer, and talked to them about their experiences both in-season and off-season. That includes how wins and losses affect their psychology versus how their teammates, coaches (position and head) handled it. It is utterly asinine to believe a loss affects a coach worse than the players. Find me an olympic athlete who has a coach that takes their loss harder than the athlete does, team or individual sport. If you have ever coached anyone in ANYTHING you have competed in you would already understand this. I have coached a number of powerlifters through competition, something I compete in myself. I understand what it feels like to miss the third attempt in deadlift and fail to PR in the meet because I have lived it. When my lifter fails I do not experience anywhere near the frustration they do, and neither does any other coach. Knock off the nonsense, thanks.
  

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Reply #41 - 11/25/13 at 16:16:21
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Don't blame the players too much.  Handling a press conference well is a difficult thing to do.  Nobody ever does these things cold.  Politicians, businessmen, sports stars all receive training on how to handle the press and coaching on what to say.  If Anand and Carlsen weren't prepped properly for these press conferences, it's actually FIDE's fault, not their's.   

Even when interviews are done spur of the moment, there's usually a PR person nearby who is giving advice.  I would be curious to hear if anyone tried to grab Anand right after Game 9 to make sure he was in the right frame of mind to face the press.  If that didn't happen, it should have.  And the FIDE press officer didn't help matters any.   

All in all, the post-game press conferences were amateurish compared to what you see in politics, business or other sports.  Fine, you can say, after all, this is only a chess match so what do you realistically expect.  But it really is a crying shame because if you ever want chess to get to the next level, you can't squander opportunities like this one.   

  
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Reply #40 - 11/25/13 at 16:04:52
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...because bland trumps rude? Because the match is over, so there's nothing much to talk about?
  

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Reply #39 - 11/25/13 at 15:47:03
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Why do we have to be divided between the camps "Anand was awful at the press conferences" and "Carlsen was awful at the press conferences"? I thought they were both rather insipid and the question which one was more insipid than the other is not too interesting. Is it too much to ask from Carlsen not to begin every sentence with a shrug and a 5-second pause followed by I don't know? Or for Anand not to make fun of Nastya Karlovich just because she asked a simple question? This was one of those moments which is actually covered by a non-zero fraction of the international press so I expected more from both of them. All of the points raised by defenders of one or the other are valid but that still doesn't fully exonerate either of them.
  
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Reply #38 - 11/25/13 at 10:28:43
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The coach is much more stressed than the players, as he has ultimate responsibility, but very limited control, which is pretty much the definition of workplace stress. 

Back on topic, Anand sounded frayed and careworn through many a press conference, judging from his snippy responses. It's simply the case that if you're playing for the big bucks by virtue of being a part of the entertainment machine, you need to learn to deal with the press (and try to play some proper chess - no shambolic grandmaster draws, but that's a topic for another day). Some elite chessplayers seem to believe that their job is just to play chess, and hang the rest of it, and that the monetary rewards are merely just recompense for their brilliance, a view which seems somewhat misplaced and doesn't do themselves or their peers any favours. That high-minded road leads to Khanty-Mansysk, playing for peanuts.
  

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Reply #37 - 11/25/13 at 10:23:14
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Keano wrote on 11/25/13 at 09:11:08:
ghenghisclown wrote on 11/25/13 at 09:03:05:
I agree with LostTactic, but more than that...I don't think it shows a lack of class at all. A lack of class would have been using an expletive.

I'm not sure it's an "excellent question" either. Obviously, he did try to calculate all the variations as far as humanely possible.


It was an excellent question (in my opinion) because that was the critical moment in the game and Anand used over 40 mins. She asked specifically if he was trying to calculate everything "until the end". 

As I said before he lost the initiative there and could have played more intuitively. It was a fascinating question because that is the type of position players like me would like to know the answer.

It was either a complete lack of class by Anand, or the most generous thing I can think is that he failed to understand the question.


Exactly. Of course he was analysing. Analysing 'to the end' is quite a different thing, a specific term OTB players use. I can't help thinking that those who don't understand this are either weak players or correspondence players.

And similarly to think for 40 minutes is an incredibly rare thing these days. It was something people were bound to want to know about; I heard the press conference live and I was looking forward to Anand's answer.

There's no way Anand didn't understand it, either, at least not if he was listening properly.
  
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Reply #36 - 11/25/13 at 10:18:20
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BPaulsen wrote on 11/24/13 at 22:49:06:
Getting fired at the end is an afterthought to the competition itself, and is functionally no different from placing a huge bet on a sporting competition and losing. Coaches are absolutely nothing without players to play the game, but the opposite is not true (the games would still go on with just athletes, albeit with lower quality). They are limited in their influence in comparison to the people actually competing. As an analogy, generals do not, and cannot, feel loss the same way soldiers in the trenches do. Now, there are athletes that handle press conferences well after losses, and those are what Anand should be compared to. Coaches hold no water as a measuring stick. One of the reasons players later turned coaches have always been popular is because of their ability to sympathize with the trials and tribulations their charges are going through from their own past experiences, but I am not aware of ANY coach that makes the claim they feel the loss equally to their players; the nature of their loss is different.


In that case I'm afraid you're just massively ignorant. Do you know *anything* about football?
  
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Reply #35 - 11/25/13 at 09:11:08
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ghenghisclown wrote on 11/25/13 at 09:03:05:
I agree with LostTactic, but more than that...I don't think it shows a lack of class at all. A lack of class would have been using an expletive.

I'm not sure it's an "excellent question" either. Obviously, he did try to calculate all the variations as far as humanely possible.


It was an excellent question (in my opinion) because that was the critical moment in the game and Anand used over 40 mins. She asked specifically if he was trying to calculate everything "until the end". 

As I said before he lost the initiative there and could have played more intuitively. It was a fascinating question because that is the type of position players like me would like to know the answer.

It was either a complete lack of class by Anand, or the most generous thing I can think is that he failed to understand the question.
  
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