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The King's Gambit ~ Shaw    
  23 (32.4%)
The Open Spanish ~ Mikhalevski    
  6 (8.5%)
The Panov-Botvinnik Attack ~ D'Costa    
  0 (0.0%)
Kotronias on the King's Indian, V. 1: Fianch    
  4 (5.6%)
GM Repertoire 12: The Modern Benoni~ Petrov    
  3 (4.2%)
Playing the French ~Aagaard & Ntirlis    
  14 (19.7%)
The Ultimate anti-Grunfeld...~Svetushkin    
  2 (2.8%)
A Practical White Rep. w/ 1.d4 &2.c4~Kornev    
  4 (5.6%)
GM Repertoire 14: The French Defence v 1~Berg    
  0 (0.0%)
The Perfect Pirc-Modern ~Moskalenko    
  3 (4.2%)
GM Repertoire 14: The French Defence v 2~Berg    
  5 (7.0%)
Cunning Chess Opening Rep. for White~Burgess    
  7 (9.9%)




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Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) John Shaw wins 2013 Opening Book of the Year! (Read 146028 times)
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Reply #72 - 02/21/14 at 21:23:37
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I believe it was in one of Jon Speelman's endgame books that I first read:

"Plagiarize
Let no one else's work evade your eyes, 
Remember why the good Lord made your eyes, 
So don't shade your eyes, 
But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize... 
Only be sure always to call it please research."
  
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Reply #71 - 02/21/14 at 21:01:25
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Mr. Buecker, I was trying to say that your posting the scanned images of the Shaw book was perfectly fine.  The scans certainly do not present a copyright issue and you don't need to justify posting them here.  I was trying to support you.  My apologies for the lack of clarity.
  

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Reply #70 - 02/21/14 at 20:29:46
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Glad I made you laugh! But for better or worse, that is the reality of the situation. Plagiarism is not a legal concept.
  
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Reply #69 - 02/21/14 at 20:14:33
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Aziridine wrote on 02/21/14 at 20:04:14:
Hang on: copyright laws (in the USA, at least) don't protect against plagiarism, which is an academic tradition. One can plagiarize without breaking the law.


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Hang on: copyright laws (in the USA, at least) don't protect against plagiarism, which is an academic tradition. One can plagiarize without breaking the law.
  
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Reply #67 - 02/21/14 at 20:00:38
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Calm down, katar, I am not going to take QC to court because of a violation of copyrights. We all know that chess publishers and chess authors are poor like church-mouses. But when we are already at it, the US law isn't so different from German law. The following comes from an American source (www.turnitin.com):

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All of the following are considered plagiarism:

•      turning in someone else’s work as your own
•      copying words or ideas from someone else without giving credit
•      failing to put a quotation in quotation marks
•      giving incorrect information about the source of a quotation
•      changing words but copying the sentence structure of a source without giving credit

You see? A major publisher should really be more careful in this respect.

The main reason for my publishing of 1.5 pages from John Shaw's book was, of course, the weird insight that you can take a short analysis of mere three lines and spread it over 1.5 pages, just by adding six diagrams plus some verbal brouhaha. I found this extremely funny and wanted to share my surreal experience with the chesspub folks. But apparently nobody here shares my sense of humour. 
  
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Reply #66 - 02/21/14 at 19:25:04
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I don't think that anyone insinuated copyright infringement had taken place (I certainly didn't mean to), more that it seems odd to be doing this in the Chesspub forum instead of emailing the publisher and informing them of the error(s).
  
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Reply #65 - 02/21/14 at 19:07:00
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Yes, I agree; this wouldn't be a copyright violation in the UK either, and anyway I can't imagine John and Jacob would be silly enough to get worked up about it.

And moreover if Stefan's quotes from his own work and TKG are right (and I expect they are) then IMHO he's entitled to be a little bit cross; obviously John/QC have made a mistake, though avoiding this sort of thing is very far from easy (I certainly don't think it would take only a week to check through at the last moment for such).
  
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Reply #64 - 02/21/14 at 18:15:02
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No, I haven't seen any copyright issues in this forum, but I will be vigilant to delete any clear breaches of copyright law. 

In the US, one can often cite several pages without breaking copyright laws. This is a critique, and so the laws are a bit more relaxed. Stefan isn't trying to profit from copying and pasting.

From the US Copyright office:

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Under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports. There are no legal rules permitting the use of a specific number of words, a certain number of musical notes, or percentage of a work. Whether a particular use qualifies as fair use depends on all the circumstances. See FL 102, Fair Use, and Circular 21, Reproductions of Copyrighted Works by Educators and Librarians.

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-fairuse.html#howmuch


Being a victim is not reason enough to break the law, but there is quite a bit of leeway regarding the amount that can be posted in a review or critique of another work.
  
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Reply #63 - 02/21/14 at 17:28:53
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Come on guys - posting 3 colums (1.5 pages) of a 600+ page book for the purpose of critiquing the book in the context of "book of the year" voting does not implicate any copyright issues under USA copyright law, and i can't imagine this would be an issue anywhere else either...  Mr. Buecker is understandably sensitive to copyright issues in light of his criticisms posted in this thread.

Wikipedia quotes a 173-year-old American case which afaik is still the basis of the Copyright Act in the USA. Folsom v. Marsh, 9. F.Cas. 342 (C.C.D. Mass. 1841):
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[A] reviewer may fairly cite largely from the original work, if his design be really and truly to use the passages for the purposes of fair and reasonable criticism. On the other hand, it is as clear, that if he thus cites the most important parts of the work, with a view, not to criticize, but to supersede the use of the original work, and substitute the review for it, such a use will be deemed in law a piracy ...
In short, we must often ... look to the nature and objects of the selections made, the quantity and value of the materials used, and the degree in which the use may prejudice the sale, or diminish the profits, or supersede the objects, of the original work.
  

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Reply #62 - 02/21/14 at 17:00:13
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ErictheRed wrote on 02/21/14 at 14:28:32:
I would like to understand what the main source of your personal grievance is, as writing "with compensation" instead of "plus over equals" seems like a very minor error and not worthy of scanning and posting copyrighted material for everyone to see. 

It is a radical step for me to publish copyrighted material without permission, yet it seems justified by the circumstances. Crediting properly is a serious matter for professional authors. - I've spent almost two months with Shaw's book, mainly analyzing concrete variations. I am aware that the visitors of this site are overwhelmingly interested in "hard theory", not in a debate of editorial accuracy or copyright issues. But when a poll on the "Book of the Year" contest in the ChessPub isn't the right moment to discuss minimum standards for opening books, this moment will never come. The ChessPub is still, with all its ills, the place in the web with the liveliest discussion about opening books, and some fine authors are among the regular visitors and contributors. 

So I have chosen, in this book's case, to focus not on hard analysis, but on editorial standards. When an author like Shaw spends five years on writing an opening book like this one, why can't he spend an extra week on getting the "basics" right: sources, quotations and so on. And why must a chess book look like a phone book? Some photos and a bit of history would greatly improve the fun.  

If you believe that it is a minor sin to misquote in the way shown above, where do you draw the line? Could it still be regarded as a case of sloppiness, if there are "only" 30 of such instances? Would 100 be required to cross the red line? 

On page 435 of his book, Shaw claims to have found a refutation of the King's Bishop Gambit 1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Bc4, starting with 3...Nc6!. Says Shaw:

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I became aware of the power of this move way back in my pre-computer days, and when this project started I hoped 3...Nc6! would be a revelation. Then I started my research and discovered that I was far from the first to reach the same conclusion.

Believe it or not: after this introduction, raising the curiousity of his readers, Shaw stops abruptly and avoids to "reveal" more about those earlier sources. Sure, this kind of pointless writing is not a punishable crime...
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Reply #61 - 02/21/14 at 15:21:08
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 02/21/14 at 13:06:40:
Careful readers who compare Shaw's take on this line with my own will notice that he has misrepresented my evaluations, again, thus creating the impression that his analysis came to a different result. Does this justify my publishing of "copyrighted" material? In my opinion: yes, it does. Look, Shaw doesn't quote properly, he doesn't respect my copyright. No need for me to take his own copyright on page 85 overly serious. 

(Btw, I've voted for Playing the French by Ntirlis/Aagaard.)


Its true, whether deliberately or by accident he has misrepresented your evaluation.

Hopefully this can be corrected in future editions...
  
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Reply #60 - 02/21/14 at 14:28:32
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 02/21/14 at 14:16:05:
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I'll change my own post--I assume that was directed at me.  I would like to understand what the main source of your personal grievance is, as writing "with compensation" instead of "plus over equals" seems like a very minor error and not worthy of scanning and posting copyrighted material for everyone to see.
  
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Reply #59 - 02/21/14 at 13:48:06
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Stefan Buecker wrote on 02/21/14 at 13:06:40:
Careful readers who compare Shaw's take on this line with my own will notice that he has misrepresented my evaluations, again, thus creating the impression that his analysis came to a different result. Does this justify my publishing of "copyrighted" material? In my opinion: yes, it does. Look, Shaw doesn't quote properly, he doesn't respect my copyright. No need for me to take his own copyright on page 85 overly serious. 


I've read over most of your complaints, which span this thread and another one.  Are you really that upset that Shaw wrote "with compensation" when you had in fact given the "plus over equals" symbol?  Is that the crux of the matter?
  
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Careful readers who compare Shaw's take on this line with my own will notice that he has misrepresented my evaluations, again, thus creating the impression that his analysis came to a different result. Does this justify my publishing of "copyrighted" material? In my opinion: yes, it does. Look, Shaw doesn't quote properly, he doesn't respect my copyright. No need for me to take his own copyright on page 85 overly serious. 

(Btw, I've voted for Playing the French by Ntirlis/Aagaard.)
  
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