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Re: Najdorf with 5. f3
Reply #11 - 12/30/14 at 21:12:43
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But compared to Taimanov stuff with ...Nc6-e5-d7, here White's knight hasn't gone a-wandering ...
  
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Re: Najdorf with 5. f3
Reply #10 - 12/30/14 at 20:59:16
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It would seem to me that - all these early tries for activity aside - Black can play for a comfortable Hedgehog-type position in which White will not benefit from having played f3 before it was necessary, nor from the bishop's delayed development at f1.

5. f3 e6 6. c4 Be7 7. Nc3 0-0 8. Be3 Nbd7 etc.

Black may even get a better position than in normal Hedgehogs here the knight often goes Nc6-e5-d7.
  
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Re: Najdorf with 5. f3
Reply #9 - 11/14/14 at 23:36:41
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It's really amazing that someone wrote a whole book for a variation which is completely busted as a winning try in a single line!



9...Qb6, played by Robson in a recent game, also looks perfectly good for Black.
  
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Re: Najdorf with 5. f3
Reply #8 - 01/29/14 at 18:59:48
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Well, on 7...Be6, White often ends up with a pretty cool game too with the (forced?) variation :
8. Bxf6 gxf6
9. exd5 and now :

* 9...Qxd5 10. Qxd5 Bxd5 11. Nc3 Bb4 ( Be6 12. 0-0-0 ) 12. 0-0-0 +/= I think
* 9...Bxd5 10. Nc3 Bb4 11. Qd3 with a powerful 0-0-0 coming

My only problem is when a closed position, as in my #1 post, comes up and I'm like " Hmmmm, and now what. "
Sometimes I go for h4-g4, and let's see what happens, but I can' t really call that a plan...  Roll Eyes

I hope I'll find some answers in the book you talked about !  Wink
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Re: Najdorf with 5. f3
Reply #7 - 01/29/14 at 18:37:53
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I notice that in a Yearbook article in 2012, (S.) Kasparov thought that 7...d4 (instead of the usual 7...Fe6) should lead to at least +=, but he didn't specifically address 9...Db6.   Smiley

I see from a sample that in his book he doesn't care for 6. Bb5+ (the old main move, or so it seems to me).
  
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Re: Najdorf with 5. f3
Reply #6 - 01/29/14 at 17:59:20
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Yeah, I'm surprised, I've never played against 3...Nf6, so I'll look into 4. dxc5.

Concerning 6. Nb3 d5, I always thought it was better to play for White after :
7. Bg5 d4
8. c3 Nc6
9. Bb5 dxc3
10. Qxd8+ Kxd8
11. Nc3
Mmmh, or 9...Qb6 10. Bxc6+ bxc6 11. cxd4 Ba6 which looks pretty good for Black actually  Undecided

I'll also look in 5. Bb5+, thank you very much !
  
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Re: Najdorf with 5. f3
Reply #5 - 01/29/14 at 09:04:52
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I think taking at c5 is not that grave for Black and know some people who employ this move order to specifically avoid 5. f3.

I also play 5. f3 as White (not exclusively) and have prepared the lines with 5. ... e5 6. Bb5+ which are interesting (non-Maroczy of course) and White may keep the initiative, in contrast to 6. Nb3 that ok gives you the Maroczy but not necessarily a good one. And there is also 6. ... d5.
  

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Re: Najdorf with 5. f3
Reply #4 - 01/28/14 at 20:06:59
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According to S. Kasparov White gets a bit of an edge after taking at c5 and this indeed looks at least a bit irritating for Black from a first glance.
  
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Re: Najdorf with 5. f3
Reply #3 - 01/28/14 at 17:22:21
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You also have to be prepared for Black choosing 3...Nf6 (hoping for 4.Nc3 cxd4 of course) instead of 3...cxd4.

I wonder what Sergey Kasparov has to say about that since I´m not aware that White gets anything out of the alternatives on move 4 here.
  
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Re: Najdorf with 5. f3
Reply #2 - 01/28/14 at 17:22:05
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Woh !
Exactly what I was looking for, Thank you ! Smiley
  
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Re: Najdorf with 5. f3
Reply #1 - 01/28/14 at 17:02:59
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You might be interested in a recent book by Sergey Kasparov.
  
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Najdorf with 5. f3
01/28/14 at 16:57:47
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Hi everybody !

Against the Najdorf, I play against stronger players :
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. f3 !?

With that move, I can play a Maróczy Bind and develop my pieces naturally. 
I'd like to know what are the main plans on each side (OK, it's boring, but there must be ideas !  Tongue)
The position often goes :
5...e5 ( better be played right now if you plan to do it, because after c4, the retreat of the Knight will be better in c2)
6. Cb3 Be6
7. c4 Be7
etc.
White will play Be3 - Qd2 - Nc3 (or a3 if c4 is in danger) - Be2 - 0-0 - Rc1 - Rd1 for example.

Nothing happens but it's solid so what would be the Black plans to try to play for the advantage here, and what White could do to play for an advantage ( except by changing their opening  Roll Eyes )

Thank you for your answers, 

MrPatate  Cool
  
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