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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #15 - 04/04/14 at 21:41:44
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I'm not a coach, nor am i a strong player (ECF 130ish) however i would think that it would be difficult to go wrong with either going through books such as the Albert's comprehensive chess series or Yusupov's books to provide some ideas for lessons. 

If she has a basic opening repertoire, how about just playing through games in positions she may get with the emphasis on middlegame understanding and endings ?
  

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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #14 - 04/04/14 at 21:12:26
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if i was paying someone to coach my kids and found out they were getting advice from the internet (no offense to the actual advice offered or those offering it) i would not be too pleased and would be looking for another coach 

  
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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #13 - 04/04/14 at 19:56:07
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Vass wrote on 04/04/14 at 10:19:21:
Just because I have a son at the same age who plays chess for three and a half years already, I may think I can even write a book about "how to".. But, the things are not simple, not at all! Every kid has its own individuality and not every kid can become a champion no matter how is trained. Chess is not a pure knowledge only, it's an area where one must have a character to become first amongst equals.
Anyway, I can say a thing or two, just to give you some food for thought.
1. You have to show this kid how to fight. A kid needs its own heroes to follow. You probably have to go to an open tournament with this kid and play like you're Kasparov or Carlsen - burn yourself if you have to, fight for every inch of the chessboard, but show this kid how to fight for a win, no matter what!
2. Learn this kid how to play the endgame! It's the field where most of the kids are hopeless. They know some of the basic endgames which their trainers have shown to them and that's all. And it's not enough.. The endgame play is way different than the middlegame one...and the kids don't get it. Let me illustrate it with a game!



Here my son was the second player. And the first player was a kid who didn't get that after 24...fxg6 an endgame will follow and therefore the rules and conditions will change. He played 25.f4 and 26.f5 as if he wants to mate the black king. And then succumbed. Even if he knew how to play the basic endgames it didn't help him, you know..

3. I think it's not early for showing and teaching this kid a basic opening repertoire of his own. Of course, some may say otherwise, but don't listen to them! A kid has to know how to play the first 10 moves (at least) of every game it plays. But.., don't teach this kid to play the moves while it doesn't understand the reason behind them. Every single move of its repertoire has to be explained in connection with the middlegame plans that will come afterwards. And you have to be sure that the kid understands them. A single "yes" is not enough. Ask the kid to explain the moves as if it teaches you and not vice-versa.
4.Middlegame plans. Try to explain the kid that every single move has to be connected with the previous and the following ones. Don't show the kid games by Kasparov, Karpov, Fischer, Carlsen and alike! Show the kid the games of his rivals and explain him the reason of every move, why they go wrong, what is the reason they play bad moves and so on...and so on.
That's enough. I didn't want to write so many words at the time I started. Anyway, one thing is sure - first teach him how to fight! To fight vigourously.. Let him hear the famous Churchill's speech, if you need to for that matter. "We shall never surrender!"  Wink



Thanks a lot Vass sir...When it comes to help others you are one of the best
  
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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #12 - 04/04/14 at 19:51:53
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TN wrote on 04/04/14 at 12:01:36:
chandrashekharkoravi wrote on 04/03/14 at 17:25:15:
One of my students is going to play U-9 Nationals at 19th May..she is playing chess from four to five years....She has a current rating of 1148 and So I am having a time of one month...Can you please suggest some plans and tips for me how to prepare her to win big event..


If your only objective is for her to win, get her to play a lot and work hard on her game. I think it was trw who said a while ago that he improved very rapidly just by playing a lot and analysing every game in detail using the 'hardcore guide to analysing chess games'.



Thanks mate.I have tried this idea too before but the problem I faced after it was that after few games may be one or two the student got exahausted and got demotivated..
  
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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #11 - 04/04/14 at 19:40:31
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ReneDescartes wrote on 04/04/14 at 18:50:34:
The parents want her to win the U.S. Championship, and they hired a coach. The coach accepts the job, then proceeds to design his curriculum by asking strangers in an internet forum to do it. Do your clients know that this is how you are guiding the child they have entrusted to you?

By the way--Chandrasekhar, wasn't he the fellow who drew some consequences from the Theory of General Relativity, adding to the glory of Einstein, the greatest scientific mind of the past 350 years?


Yes Chandrasekhar was the fellow who drew some consequences from the Theory,,,
  
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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #10 - 04/04/14 at 19:31:54
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Its not as if I really I dont know to coach...I have already designed my plans on how to work on it as I have posted before...but I posted this simply to get more suggestions/ideas ..I think listening to others is the best way to learn..I have got lots of intresting ideas and views from various members of this forum which I think are really useful...Thanks a lot friends... Wink
  
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Re: how to plan for Nationals
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The parents want her to win the U.S. Championship, and they hired a coach. The coach accepts the job, then proceeds to design his curriculum by asking strangers in an internet forum to do it. Do your clients know that this is how you are guiding the child they have entrusted to you?

By the way--Chandrasekhar, wasn't he the fellow who drew some consequences from the Theory of General Relativity, adding to the glory of Einstein, the greatest scientific mind of the past 350 years?
  
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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #8 - 04/04/14 at 12:01:36
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chandrashekharkoravi wrote on 04/03/14 at 17:25:15:
One of my students is going to play U-9 Nationals at 19th May..she is playing chess from four to five years....She has a current rating of 1148 and So I am having a time of one month...Can you please suggest some plans and tips for me how to prepare her to win big event..


If your only objective is for her to win, get her to play a lot and work hard on her game. I think it was trw who said a while ago that he improved very rapidly just by playing a lot and analysing every game in detail using the 'hardcore guide to analysing chess games'.
  

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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #7 - 04/04/14 at 10:19:21
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Just because I have a son at the same age who plays chess for three and a half years already, I may think I can even write a book about "how to".. But, the things are not simple, not at all! Every kid has its own individuality and not every kid can become a champion no matter how is trained. Chess is not a pure knowledge only, it's an area where one must have a character to become first amongst equals.
Anyway, I can say a thing or two, just to give you some food for thought.
1. You have to show this kid how to fight. A kid needs its own heroes to follow. You probably have to go to an open tournament with this kid and play like you're Kasparov or Carlsen - burn yourself if you have to, fight for every inch of the chessboard, but show this kid how to fight for a win, no matter what!
2. Learn this kid how to play the endgame! It's the field where most of the kids are hopeless. They know some of the basic endgames which their trainers have shown to them and that's all. And it's not enough.. The endgame play is way different than the middlegame one...and the kids don't get it. Let me illustrate it with a game!



Here my son was the second player. And the first player was a kid who didn't get that after 24...fxg6 an endgame will follow and therefore the rules and conditions will change. He played 25.f4 and 26.f5 as if he wants to mate the black king. And then succumbed. Even if he knew how to play the basic endgames it didn't help him, you know..

3. I think it's not early for showing and teaching this kid a basic opening repertoire of his own. Of course, some may say otherwise, but don't listen to them! A kid has to know how to play the first 10 moves (at least) of every game it plays. But.., don't teach this kid to play the moves while it doesn't understand the reason behind them. Every single move of its repertoire has to be explained in connection with the middlegame plans that will come afterwards. And you have to be sure that the kid understands them. A single "yes" is not enough. Ask the kid to explain the moves as if it teaches you and not vice-versa.
4.Middlegame plans. Try to explain the kid that every single move has to be connected with the previous and the following ones. Don't show the kid games by Kasparov, Karpov, Fischer, Carlsen and alike! Show the kid the games of his rivals and explain him the reason of every move, why they go wrong, what is the reason they play bad moves and so on...and so on.
That's enough. I didn't want to write so many words at the time I started. Anyway, one thing is sure - first teach him how to fight! To fight vigourously.. Let him hear the famous Churchill's speech, if you need to for that matter. "We shall never surrender!"  Wink
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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #6 - 04/04/14 at 08:24:04
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Surely at that age and rating it's mostly about making sure the player stays calm, takes her time thinking properly about each move and takes her tactical chances when they come. So, I would have thought some practice games at the time controls to be used in the tournament (or at most a bit shorter) and tactics excercises to the extent that it all keeps being good fun.

Playing over some good games with nice natural straightforward play (e.g. Morphy games) cannot hurt either to be in a mindset to play good straightforward moves.
  
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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #5 - 04/04/14 at 04:39:20
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Guys I am asking for different ways and ideas for preparing for big events (best way to prepare Wink) What would you do if you were on my place ?? Any advises
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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #4 - 04/03/14 at 22:11:46
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This is surely just trolling now.
  
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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #3 - 04/03/14 at 18:24:23
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Tactics for 10-15 minutes per day a few days a week.
Maybe a quick review of the most common openings she will be likely to face.
Tell her that her parents will give her up for adoption if she does not win first place and brings shame to the family name. Wink
  

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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #2 - 04/03/14 at 17:41:16
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I have my own plans to teach but her parents wants their child to win at any cost....I have told them that I would give my best...but I cant guarantee sucess... 

Can any one suggest some plans...Currently I am making her to 
1.Solve tactics for one hour or half hour.
2.Show some model games
3.Make her play slow games online 
4.Analyse her games and show here mistakes

Is this plan correct or I should try some thing else
  
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Re: how to plan for Nationals
Reply #1 - 04/03/14 at 17:27:10
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Why are you her teacher if you don't know how to prepare her?  I'm not trying to troll, but I seriously don't understand your question.
  
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