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Carlsen +1    
  16 (17.6%)
Carlsen +2    
  41 (45.1%)
Carlsen +3    
  7 (7.7%)
Carlsen +4 or higher    
  0 (0.0%)
Anand +1    
  8 (8.8%)
Anand +2    
  5 (5.5%)
Anand +3    
  0 (0.0%)
Anand +4 or higher    
  0 (0.0%)
Draw and Carlsen wins tiebreaks    
  7 (7.7%)
Draw and Anand wins tiebreaks    
  0 (0.0%)
Carlsen wins but not sure on score    
  6 (6.6%)
Anand wins but not sure on score    
  1 (1.1%)




Total votes: 91
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Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
Reply #12 - 11/06/14 at 23:07:46
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I think there are some psychological factors that will be different this time. Since the previous match, Vishy has beaten Carlsen a la Carlsen in the rapid championships, squeezing a victory from nothing--with a rook(!) against two minor pieces. Vishy knows he was too hesitant last time--he made a key concession, unconsciously showing fear, when he took a draw in a situation in which he was better early in the match (as Petrosian did against Fischer). He didn't really take the attack to Carlsen until the end of the match. That won't happen again.  And Vishy has nothing to lose this time.

Vishy may not prepare more, but he will prepare better. He won't allow the Berlin, that's for sure. I also think Carlsen's poor form and Vishy's victory in the candidates work in exactly the way they seem to on the surface.
  
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Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
Reply #11 - 11/06/14 at 22:15:46
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Anand will be better prepared, but it won't matter; I expect Carlsen to simply outplay him again.  The problem as I see it is that there was no lack of opening preparation on Vishy's part, no lack of theoretical preparation (except perhaps in rook endings?  Or were his mistakes due to fatigue?).  

I don't think that Vishy can prepare his way to success against Carlsen, he must genuinely train again, flex the muscles of his mind again, calculate further, faster, more efficiently, visualize better, find reserves of energy late in the match, etc.  And in his forties, I don't see that as possible.  He can probably play better than he did last year, but not good enough to beat Carlsen, provided Carlsen's own training efforts haven't suffered.

I also think that the hiatus from playing will hurt Anand.  I don't see him preparing his way into shape, as I mentioned before, while Carlsen has continued to exercise his powers of visualization, calculation, decision making, struggling, and the like.  I suspect Anand to put up a somewhat better show but the result to be approximately the same.

Finally, it wouldn't surprise me to see Carlsen prepare at least one extremely sharp line, as this was something he didn't do the first time around and may come as a nasty surprise to Anand if unleashed at the appropriate time.
  
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Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
Reply #10 - 11/06/14 at 21:55:02
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Seth_Xoma wrote on 11/06/14 at 21:40:13:
Smyslov_Fan wrote on 11/06/14 at 15:54:10:

I do think Anand will be better prepared, which was hard for me to imagine considering how long he'd been preparing for the first match. I also think Carlsen won't be quite so hungry this time. But I agree, Carlsen will still win by two.


Anand will have the previous World Championship as an outline to work from. Vishy now knows what channels Carlsen will try to take the match into. This is my thinking, anyway.


But Carlsen knows this too  Wink
  

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Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
Reply #9 - 11/06/14 at 21:40:13
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 11/06/14 at 15:54:10:

I do think Anand will be better prepared, which was hard for me to imagine considering how long he'd been preparing for the first match. I also think Carlsen won't be quite so hungry this time. But I agree, Carlsen will still win by two.


Anand will have the previous World Championship as an outline to work from. Vishy now knows what channels Carlsen will try to take the match into. This is my thinking, anyway.
  
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Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
Reply #8 - 11/06/14 at 20:18:54
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I wonder if Carlsen's relatively poor form is down to his focus being on the re-match. 

Either way, i think his poor form will make him eager to win against Anand.
  

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Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
Reply #7 - 11/06/14 at 15:54:10
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I'm impressed that there's a consensus that Carlsen will win by two this time. 

I do think Anand will be better prepared, which was hard for me to imagine considering how long he'd been preparing for the first match. I also think Carlsen won't be quite so hungry this time. But I agree, Carlsen will still win by two.
  
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Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
Reply #6 - 11/06/14 at 11:55:37
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Anand or Carlsen. Topalov has no chance.  Smiley
  
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Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
Reply #5 - 11/06/14 at 09:56:59
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A white win against the Berlin defence in game 2 would be historically awesome.
  
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Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
Reply #4 - 11/06/14 at 08:52:22
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I voted for Anand +1 since no one of my friends believes he will win.

I have warm up for this match by reading both Anand Move by Move and Carlsen Move by Move Smiley
  
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Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
Reply #3 - 11/06/14 at 02:46:34
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I agree with Seth - Anand better understands the challenges this time, and Carlsen has not been on his best form lately. Perhaps the struggles of the contract disputes and such got in the way of his preparation a bit. I think Anand fairs better this time around, but I'm not sure it's enough to beat Carlsen, who has stamina for days.
  
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Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
Reply #2 - 11/06/14 at 01:20:45
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+1 or +2 Carlsen. Anand wins at least 1, maybe 2 games this time.
  
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Re: Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
Reply #1 - 11/04/14 at 19:05:20
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I guess Carlsen will be able to win again but it won't be as clear as last time. +1 match score for Carlsen
  
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Carlsen vs Anand Sochi 2014 World Championship
11/04/14 at 18:04:29
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I think it's going to be a tight match but I'm going for Anand to win but I'm not certain of what the score will be. I know Carlsen is a favourite but I have gut feeling that Anand will pull off a big upset in Sochi.

Edit in:

For those that don't know; game 1 starts at 15:00 Moscow time on Saturday the 8th of November.

Here is a link to the official site: http://www.sochi2014.fide.com/

Official commentary will be by Peter Svidler and Sopiko Guramishvili. I think Svidler is a top choice but I'm a bit weary about Sopiko, as far as I'm aware she has no experience in doing commentary and we could have a similar disaster to Tania Sachdev last time. I personally think they should have gone for a proven anchor man like Dirk Jan ten Geuzendam or Lawrence Trent. I understand there reasons for wanting a female commentator though but as a chess enthusiast I prefer the best commentators to get the job.
  
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