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HagenWatch1 Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 123 Joined: 04/08/15	Re: Coverage of the Two Knights Ulvestad variation? Reply #7 - 04/28/15 at 14:37:38	Post Tools	Print Post
	ReneDescartes wrote on 04/28/15 at 13:00:37: What is true is of it, at least, is that the first time inexperienced players encounter it they rarely play 6. Bf1!. So you can get quite a few points against weak players by memorizing the refutations of the other bishop moves. Yeats ago a friend of mine gave me a handmade pamphlet on this variation, which he had nade for his students. But today a database search and a little research in Chessbase will show as much. My apologies. I had forgotten the 6.Bf1 move. Yes, that pretty much leaves out the Ulvestad variation. Please forgive my foolishness.


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ReneDescartes God Member Offline Qu'est-ce donc que je suis? Une chose qui pense. Posts: 1240 Joined: 05/17/10 Gender:	Re: Coverage of the Two Knights Ulvestad variation? Reply #6 - 04/28/15 at 13:00:37	Post Tools	Print Post
	What is true is of it, at least, is that the first time inexperienced players encounter it they rarely play 6. Bf1!. So you can get quite a few points against weak players by memorizing the refutations of the other bishop moves. Years ago a friend of mine gave me a handmade pamphlet on this variation, which he had made for his students. But today a database search and a little research in Chessbase will show as much. Copy edited for typos after quote above taken.
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Fllg God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 647 Joined: 05/30/09 Gender:	Re: Coverage of the Two Knights Ulvestad variation? Reply #5 - 04/28/15 at 04:33:49	Post Tools	Print Post
	Besides, the Ulvestad leaves Black worse after 5...b5 6.Bf1 h6 7.Nxf7 Kxf7 8.dxc6 Bc5 9.Be2! 6...Nd4 would transpose to the Fritz-Variation, which is also not entirely satisfactory.


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Smyslov_Fan YaBB Moderator Correspondence fan Offline Progress depends on the unreasonable man. ~GBS Posts: 6902 Joined: 06/15/05	Re: Coverage of the Two Knights Ulvestad variation? Reply #4 - 04/28/15 at 03:35:42	Post Tools	Print Post
	*This Topic was moved here from General Chess* [move by] Smyslov_Fan.**


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katar Senior Member Offline look another year went by Posts: 462 Location: LA Joined: 09/21/05 Gender:	Re: Coverage of the Two Knights Ulvestad variation? Reply #3 - 04/28/15 at 01:26:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	Another "anti-positional" chess thread insofar as it belongs in the "General Chess" section about as much as a knight belongs on b7. Strategy: Do a search for yourself before asking others to help. This will also cause you to ask fewer but more specific questions. Add to an existing topic instead of creating a new one, unless a relevant topic does not yet exist. This helps everyone and reduces the moderators' workload. Tactics: Ulvestad is a Two Knights variation and often transposes to the "Fritz" line. Accordingly, consult the Two Knights subforum at ChessPub, located here: http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?board=twokn Run a chesspub search for the term "ulvestad." Delimit time by selecting "Post made in the last (all posts)" Run a google/bing/yahoo search for the term "ulvestad chess". The above "tactics" are simply what others would do for you in order to answer your question. Of course, those wanting coverage of openings may consider a subscription to chesspublishing.com.

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HagenWatch1 Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 123 Joined: 04/08/15	Re: Coverage of the Two Knights Ulvestad variation? Reply #2 - 04/28/15 at 00:44:01	Post Tools	Print Post
	ReneDescartes wrote on 04/28/15 at 00:22:55: As has come up before, the book is a repertoire for Black. He doesn't have to mention it if it's not one of his recommendations. And I also asked whether there's any detailed coverage of this line. Granted, stipulating that Black Weapons is a repertoire only doesn't mean the Ulvestad variation doesn't exist. A tree will still fall down even if you don't hear it. So, is there any coverage of this line in any book, article I can look at?


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ReneDescartes God Member Offline Qu'est-ce donc que je suis? Une chose qui pense. Posts: 1240 Joined: 05/17/10 Gender:	Re: Coverage of the Two Knights Ulvestad variation? Reply #1 - 04/28/15 at 00:22:55	Post Tools	Print Post
	As has come up before, the book is a repertoire for Black. He doesn't have to mention it if it's not one of his recommendations.


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HagenWatch1 Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 123 Joined: 04/08/15	Coverage of the Two Knights Ulvestad variation? 04/27/15 at 23:04:56	Post Tools	Print Post
	Here's the line I'm referring to: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 d5 5.exd5 b5!? Bologan's Black Weapons only covers the 5...Na5 response. So this has me scratching my head as to why he ignores the Ulvestad variation with the aforementioned 5...b5 line? Has this been extensively covered in a monogram or article refuting the 5...b5 line anywhere? Or is this line too speculative to analyze? I'm surprised Bologan's Black Weapons doesn't even mention the 5...b5 idea. He could have at least said it was too wild to calculate.


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