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Re: Leningrad Dutch - dipping toe in the water
Reply #4 - 06/16/16 at 18:04:53
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Thanks for the replies. 1. d4 d6 2. Nf3 g6 is my usual. I've played the Stonewall before, when I did Universal 1. ...e6. Looking to add the Leningrad to a Universal d6 whilst avoiding some anti-Dutch lines.

The starting out book might be the thing. I like his KIA and Lopez books. What's the Dutch book like in comparison.?

Yes, I have Perfect Pirc, so Moskolenko might be a thing to go with later, but for now, I just need enough for a bit of road testing.
  

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Re: Leningrad Dutch - dipping toe in the water
Reply #3 - 06/16/16 at 17:45:25
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To dip my toe in the water and get a quick rep up and running for a 1900ish player, what book/DVD would you recommend?

Looking also more for idea based material than telephone directories of variations.


Moskalenko's Diamond Dutch comes to mind - you probably already have his Perfect Pirc, so you'll know what to expect. 

Neil McDonald is also quite good at pointing out ideas and manoeuvres - he's written several books on the Dutch/Leningrad, maybe his Starting Out book would fit your need best.
  
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Re: Leningrad Dutch - dipping toe in the water
Reply #2 - 06/16/16 at 16:58:02
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Fllg wrote on 06/16/16 at 16:43:39:
JEH wrote on 06/16/16 at 14:39:57:


1. d4 d6 2. Nf3 f5


I used to play this way some 20 years ago but if I remember correctly, 3.Nc3! Nf6 4.Bg5 Nbd7 5.Qd3 intending e2-e4 is at least annoying for Black.

Possibly true, but for a Pirc player, 1.d4 d6 2.Nf3 g6 avoids that problem. The only downside is if you wanted to play something like the Czech Pirc or Philidor instead, or meet the Bd3 Pirc with a line without ...g6.

Within the Leningrad, 1...d6 does deprive Black of the Stonewall hybrid lines, unless he wants to look silly playing ...d5 in two moves. I never liked the Stolningrwald anyway, but some authors feel it's objectively the best answer to one or more of the early b4, b3 or c3 lines.
  

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Re: Leningrad Dutch - dipping toe in the water
Reply #1 - 06/16/16 at 16:43:39
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JEH wrote on 06/16/16 at 14:39:57:


1. d4 d6 2. Nf3 f5


I used to play this way some 20 years ago but if I remember correctly, 3.Nc3! Nf6 4.Bg5 Nbd7 5.Qd3 intending e2-e4 is at least annoying for Black.
  
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Leningrad Dutch - dipping toe in the water
06/16/16 at 14:39:57
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I open 1. d4 d6, aiming to play Pirc/KID/Old Indian

I am thinking of adding

1. d4 d6 2. Nf3 f5

and/or

1. d4 d6 2. c4 f5

for some variety. 

To dip my toe in the water and get a quick rep up and running for a 1900ish player, what book/DVD would you recommend?

Looking also more for idea based material than telephone directories of variations.

Cheers,

JEH 

P.S. (ChessPub + Databases, take as read  Wink)

  

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