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Re: The Fianchetto Solution
Reply #30 - 09/27/16 at 15:33:58
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I think its philosophy is to create an opening repertoire based on particular structures, in this case always containing a fianchetto, and including Pirc/Modern/KID/Benoni/Benko type ideas, things covered in books like  "Mastering the Thingy with the Read and Play Method", "Grandmaster Structures", "Pawn Structure Chess"

I'm not deciding whether it is a solution or not just yet  Smiley
  

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Reply #29 - 09/27/16 at 15:07:14
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In sum: The Fianchetto Solution is no solution!
  
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Re: The Fianchetto Solution
Reply #28 - 09/27/16 at 15:00:46
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JonathanB wrote on 09/27/16 at 13:42:40:
JEH wrote on 09/27/16 at 10:46:41:
I think I will park it for now.


That’s a bit of a shame.


P.S. Parking it doesn't mean I think it's a bad book. I haven't gone through it properly yet. It's just that its approach is somewhat different from my own "fianchetto solution" that has evolved over time, but I can mine it for ideas later.
  

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Re: The Fianchetto Solution
Reply #27 - 09/27/16 at 14:20:44
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Bibs wrote on 09/27/16 at 12:00:25:
Noting your Gurg interest and your completist approach to things fianchetto, you may find this book worth a look:


I picked it up, along with Ray Keene's Flank openings from the book stall at a recent tournament in Torquay. 
  

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Reply #26 - 09/27/16 at 14:19:28
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JonathanB wrote on 09/27/16 at 13:42:40:
That’s a bit of a shame.


I intend to come back to it at some point as seeding the Modern into my repertoire is still part of a plan. 
  

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Re: The Fianchetto Solution
Reply #25 - 09/27/16 at 13:42:40
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JEH wrote on 09/27/16 at 10:46:41:

I think I will park it for now.


That’s a bit of a shame. It seems to me that the book’s problem is that while its strengths may take some time to come to light, its weaknesses are immediately apparent. More on that later when I have more time.
  

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Reply #24 - 09/27/16 at 12:00:25
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Noting your Gurg interest and your completist approach to things fianchetto, you may find this book worth a look:
http://www.abebooks.com/Modern-Defence-Vlastimil-Hort-Edmar-Mednis/5098655744/bd
I had when I was young. Old but has some ideas in there.
  
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Re: The Fianchetto Solution
Reply #23 - 09/27/16 at 10:53:31
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JonathanB wrote on 09/27/16 at 05:53:06:


I’m afraid to say that the Bibliography for TFS is abysmal. 



They've mentioned The Modern Tiger and Neil McDonald's KIA Move By Move, both great books which I've not worked out if they've added much too apart from spotting covering 1. Nf3 Nc6 so far.

A mystery maybe where the Gurg and Nc6 Modern stuff came from, maybe from general sources and databases.

I gave these up a while back (around the time I got According to Anand Book 4  Wink ) but might be worth a revisit so see what has moved on.
  

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Re: The Fianchetto Solution
Reply #22 - 09/27/16 at 10:46:41
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My copy was already on pre-order and has arrived. Have had a quick flick through. 

I think I will park it for now.
  

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Re: The Fianchetto Solution
Reply #21 - 09/27/16 at 07:03:25
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JonathanB, I'd like to thank you for these informative posts, even though their cumulative effect on me is something akin to how a balloon must feel as it deflates.

You'd think I would have learnt by now, right? 
After the 'complete, sound and user friendly' Kaufman Repertoire
After the Sveshnikov Chess Opening Repertoire for Blitz and Rapid
But no. Apparently I still believe that the cover blurb on the outside of a NIC book is indicative of the content inside the book.

Perhaps this title will finally teach me the lesson I require to stop wasting my money.

Having said all that, I haven't seen a copy for myself yet so - deep breath - maybe it's not as bad as I think.
  
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Reply #20 - 09/27/16 at 06:56:47
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JonathanB wrote on 09/27/16 at 06:10:02:
JEH wrote on 09/27/16 at 05:48:29:

"The Fianchetto Solution
A Complete, Solid and Flexible Chess Opening Repertoire"

Huh


I would take issue with "complete", "solid" and "repertoire" in that sentence. It is definitely about chess though.

I had big hopes that this book would present "the missing link" or the "glue" between all my fianchetto defences (and openings), but since it is NOT a repertoire book, and not even complete, I am hugely disappointed. It seems to me a very uneven book, but maybe I will still buy it for all the "strategic" themes in fianchetto openings and defences.
  
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Re: The Fianchetto Solution
Reply #19 - 09/27/16 at 06:10:02
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JEH wrote on 09/27/16 at 05:48:29:

"The Fianchetto Solution
A Complete, Solid and Flexible Chess Opening Repertoire"

Huh


I would take issue with "complete", "solid" and "repertoire" in that sentence. It is definitely about chess though.

Complete:
I fear not.  I’m no expert on the Modern but I did take quite a close look at the ... Nc6 anti-Austrian variation a few years back.

5 Bb5 is surprisingly annoying. Surprising to me, at least, but probably it shouldn’t have been. White is just trying to do to Black - exchange light-squared bishop for a knight to aid control of d4 - what Black is trying to do to White a lot of the time.

5 Bb5 is not mentioned at all in TFS.


Possibly I’m missing it - see earlier comments - but I"m not sure 1 e4 g6, 2 d4 Bg7, 3 c4 d6, 4 Nf3 is covered either.

Those two examples, and the fact that the entire Pirc Austrian Attack is covered in 2.5 pages, lead me to suspect the coverage is not at all "complete".

It does have lines for both Black and White, mind.


Solid
I’m not sure that you can fairly accuse the Modern of being a solid opening. The ... Nc6 lines especially so. I don’t see this as a drawback, necessarily.


Flexible
Yes - lots of lines presented and often various choices (ironically this is often because one of the authors doesn’t think the main suggestion is at all solid).


Repertoire
I remember reading people describing The Flexible French as a repertoire book despite the fact that it clearly wasn’t by any traditional or meaningful definition of the term. But it said so on the back cover so that’s what they said.

TFS is not a repertoire book in the sense that it says, "in this position play this line, in that position play that line ....". Often a number of choices are presented as noted above, but that does have a knock-on impact on how extensive the coverage can be.

Also, the thing that appealed most to me - the reason why I bought the book - is that it’s not just about variations. There’s the attempt to look at common themes in the "Strategic Motif" sections and the exercises at the end of each chapter/sub-section.

TFS is not a repertoire book. Again, i don’t see that as a drawback.
  

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Re: The Fianchetto Solution
Reply #18 - 09/27/16 at 06:01:17
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JonathanB wrote on 09/27/16 at 05:53:06:
they suddenly devote a page to the Gurgenidize system. 


  

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Re: The Fianchetto Solution
Reply #17 - 09/27/16 at 05:53:06
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heavypieces wrote on 09/27/16 at 00:40:45:
... it has inspired me to finally buy a used copy of David Norwood's Batsford book on the Modern from 1994....


I agree Norwood’s thoughts would be most interesting. Also Ray Keene’s who (co)wrote books on the Pirc/Modern/Flank Openings in the early 70s and practiced what he preached. He even did a short tape in Mike Basman’s Audio Chess series on playing the King’s Fianchetto with both Black and White. I fear we are unlikely to get anything approaching a rigorous review from RDK, however.

I’m afraid to say that the Bibliography for TFS is abysmal. It mentions none of Keene’s nor Norwood's books. These would have been quite helpful, I think, because in the midst of the Austrian attack chapter they suddenly devote a page to the Gurgenidize system. They could have pointed out that the coverage in Keene/Botterill’s book from 1972 and Norwood’s is considerably more extensive and worth checking out if the reader is interested in learning more.

  

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Re: The Fianchetto Solution
Reply #16 - 09/27/16 at 05:48:29
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JonathanB wrote on 09/27/16 at 05:41:56:

Although it’s not a repertoire book


"The Fianchetto Solution
A Complete, Solid and Flexible Chess Opening Repertoire"

Huh
  

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