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Stigma God Member Offline There is a crack in everything. Posts: 3277 Joined: 11/07/06 Gender:	Re: QGD Тartakower databse by Marin Reply #6 - 06/16/19 at 21:56:54	Post Tools	Print Post
	MNb wrote on 06/16/19 at 13:28:49: Unfortunately since 1990 Black has been doing very well with the aggressive plan a5, a4, Qa5 and b5. Ward's Play the Queen's Gambit (2006) does deal with these counterattacks / race situations. Though admittedly it's not the deepest theory book ever, and I've found these opposite castling variations quite tricky to handle the few times I've tried them with White. As far as I recall White gets decent results with most of them in the database though.

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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10779 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: QGD Тartakower databse by Marin Reply #5 - 06/16/19 at 13:28:49	Post Tools	Print Post
	Unfortunately since 1990 Black has been doing very well with the aggressive plan a5, a4, Qa5 and b5.

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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4989 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: QGD Тartakower databse by Marin Reply #4 - 06/15/19 at 23:00:19	Post Tools	Print Post
	Stigma wrote on 06/15/19 at 22:22:29: The Carlsbad isn't that quiet, certainly not the Nge2 lines. White can even castle long in many of them, and there are also lines that combine Nf3 with 0-0-0 - Chris Ward's old repertoire book on the Queen's Gambit discussed several sharp setups with opposite castling. Incidentally a repertoire book much older than that (from 35 years ago, by Raymond Keene) featured Nge2 with long castling, using such games as Spielmann-Sir George Thomas and Christiansen-Spassky.


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Stigma God Member Offline There is a crack in everything. Posts: 3277 Joined: 11/07/06 Gender:	Re: QGD Тartakower databse by Marin Reply #3 - 06/15/19 at 22:22:29	Post Tools	Print Post
	Leon_Trotsky wrote on 06/15/19 at 21:26:45: Alatortsew seems sharper. Perhaps something White does not want when trying to get the quiet Carlsbad. The Carlsbad isn't that quiet, certainly not the Nge2 lines. White can even castle long in many of them, and there are also lines that combine Nf3 with 0-0-0 - Chris Ward's old repertoire book on the Queen's Gambit discussed several sharp setups with opposite castling. And the Alatortsev is only really sharp if White starts throwing g- and h-pawns forward. If White plays the alternative setups with Bd3/Nge2 or Nge2-g3, the Alatortsev is the calmer variation.

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Leon_Trotsky Senior Member Offline Кто был никем — тот станет всем! Posts: 499 Location: Barcelona, CAT Joined: 08/11/17 Gender:	Re: QGD Тartakower databse by Marin Reply #2 - 06/15/19 at 21:26:45	Post Tools	Print Post
	https://www.modern-chess.com/en/chess-databases/database=79 Marin's 2th database released today for QGD. He gives 3...Ae7 move order. I wonder if is more popular now ¿ I thought that Ntirlis solved at least the problem with 3...Cf6 of the Carlsbad with White knight on e2 structure with Black setup with knight on h5 and exchanging bishops. Alatortsew seems sharper. Perhaps something White does not want when trying to get the quiet Carlsbad. I see he gives 6...b6 in the 5. Af4 variation, just like Ntirlis. In any case, much more interesting than that endgame line (3. Cc3 Cf6 4. cxd5 exd5 5. Ag5 c6 6. e3 Af5 7. Df3) where Black gets to develop the bitchop on f5, yet gets a busted pawn structure. I have no idea why the hell that line so popular with elite GMs. Glad it is not recommended in his database

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fjd God Member Offline Posts: 551 Location: Ottawa Joined: 09/22/16	Re: QGD Тartakower databse by Marin Reply #1 - 05/25/19 at 18:34:54	Post Tools	Print Post
	Well, I can think of at least four publications recently that went for ...Nbd7 and ...c5, so the choice of the Tartakower makes a lot of sense.


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Bibs God Member Offline Posts: 2342 Joined: 10/24/06	Re: QGD Тartakower databse by Marin 05/25/19 at 08:54:03	Post Tools	Print Post
	@Mods Better to change the title into Roman alphabet. @ forumites Its an EIL paradigm here - English as an International Language. Just about everyone manages this, and it’s good if we can all keep to clear English, to be mutually understood. @ Trotsky It’s perhaps easier for others if you keep to ‘B’ for Bishop etc
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