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Reply #9 - 11/06/20 at 13:15:47
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I finally finished it and very much enjoyed it. Chess is the vehicle for the story, much like pool was the vehicle for, "The Hustler."  So accuracy is there, **BUT** only what is needed for the story. No one promised you a rose garden. Otherwise, the story concentrates on the characters. Something I strongly preferred considering the reality garbage that is out there. Production values were excellent and sets, costumes, cars, etc. seemed excellent as well. The main character, at various points in the story, wallows in drugs & alcohol unapologetically, which makes sense in terms of the plot, but I find unlikely to draw young girls to chess - as some have suggested. It is really about one young woman's journey from dysfunctional childhood to a satisfying resolution. The ending is poignant and sweet. For adults and teens only, IMHO.
  
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Re: "The Queen's Gambit"
Reply #8 - 10/21/20 at 13:53:00
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I've seen the whole thing, twice. (We are printing a big story on it in Chess Life by series consultant Bruce Pandolfini.)

It's a bit soapy and the chess sequences are too fast for those of us used to regular time controls. But the chess is real - you'll recognize a French McCutcheon at one point on Beth's board, and in CL we explain the real chess behind one of the key positions in the final episode - and the actors took the task of learning to move the pieces properly quite seriously. 

I asked my wife (who tends towards Spanish telenovelas for mindless binge watching) if there was enough drama / intrigue to keep non-chess folks interested, and she said yes, so hopefully that's a good sign.
  
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Reply #7 - 10/21/20 at 11:47:14
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I read the book a while ago and thought it was fine as well and actually seemed to show the chess stuff fairly well.  I'm interested to watch this series.

The author of the book (Walter Trevis) has had some other books made into films that you may be more familiar with:

The Hustler (1963) - Pool movie starring Paul Newman
The Color of Money (1986) - sequel to the Hustler with Newman and Tom Cruise (directed by Scorcese). Newman won his only best actor oscar for this role.
The Man Who Fell to Earth (1976) - starring David Bowie. I don't think I've ever watched this one though.
  
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Re: "The Queen's Gambit"
Reply #6 - 10/20/20 at 22:17:31
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"Reality TV" is the worst thing ever produced. But hey! the bar can always go lower. I will wait and see.
  
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Re: "The Queen's Gambit"
Reply #5 - 10/20/20 at 18:52:08
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Tbh it is good to hear Kasparov is a consultant as that means they shouldn't have any chess errors... from that trailer, it looked like it would have every classic chess mistake on film possible.

The story looks terrible. It's almost like they wanted to take Judit combine her with Nabokov stories / Morphy / Fischer etc and the classic soviet boogeyman... what came out in that trailer was pure garbage imo. Of course I am only judging it on the trailer. It is definitely something I would never watch because the story is not interesting even in the slightest. Combing every trope in chess ever heard of into one bad story  Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - 10/20/20 at 16:07:16
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I love this from the NY Times article: "In 2018, the first game of the championship match at the world chess championship lasted as long as the series."
  
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Re: "The Queen's Gambit"
Reply #3 - 10/20/20 at 14:45:03
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Kasparov was a consultant, so at least the chess shouldn't be embarrassing: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/16/arts/television/queens-gambit-chess-netflix.h...

I read the book a while ago and thought it was fine, although of course novels about chess are not as interesting and dramatic as chess itself.

The online reviews that I could find were pretty positive. I doubt that it will be the worst thing ever produced, but I guess you never know.
  
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Re: "The Queen's Gambit"
Reply #2 - 10/20/20 at 01:28:55
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Here's my fav chess movie scene (and no surprise to any):

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB25sTdXkM0

I'm old enough that I saw the movie in its original release. Though my mother leaned over to my father at one point and said, "John, are you sure we should let Andrew see this kind of movie?"  I was 9 or 10. Likely due more to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnyxSw3BAaI

<young love, sigh!>
  
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Reply #1 - 10/19/20 at 23:04:46
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Looks like a real candidate for worst thing ever produced.
  
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10/19/20 at 18:59:38
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