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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #95 - 04/02/22 at 09:44:35
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Dragonslayer wrote on 04/01/22 at 22:09:12:
Congratulations on the book and reviews!
I am eagerly awaiting my copy to arrive, but
it will definitely be the perfect companion to the Elephant 😉
Had hoped for the Rousseau against the Italian, though.


thanks, Michael Smiley

re the Rousseau: I don't really like Black's position after 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 f5 4 d4 fxe4 5 Nxe5 d5 6 Bb5, while 4...exd4 5 Ng5 is the same as the Stockfish video above Wink
  

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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #94 - 04/01/22 at 22:09:12
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Congratulations on the book and reviews!
I am eagerly awaiting my copy to arrive, but
it will definitely be the perfect companion to the Elephant 😉
Had hoped for the Rousseau against the Italian, though.
  
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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #93 - 04/01/22 at 15:23:05
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IMJohnCox wrote on 04/01/22 at 13:46:37:
Hah - well, the great Youtube Algorithm sees everything, and immediately after I posted here proposed this video to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa6dorGlGvA&t=1011s

No doubt Stockfish's play here is dealt with in the book!


Indeed... Smiley

"The natural-looking 4...Nc6 5 Ng5 Ne5 runs into trouble after 6 Qxd4 (or 6 Bxg8! Rxg8 7 Qxd4 Qf6 transposing, since 7...d6 8 Nc3 c6 9 Bf4 is equally good for White) 6...Qf6 (or 6...Nxc4 7 Qxc4 Qe7 8 0-0 h6 9 Nh3 c6 10 Nc3, ETC_Chess-Reddog, playchess.de 2005; while Kravtsiv goes for 8 Nc3 c6 9 Qe2) 7 Bxg8! (not 7 Nc3?! c5!) 7...Rxg8 (or 7...f4!? 8 Bf7+! Nxf7 9 Qxf6 gxf6 10 Nxf7 Kxf7 11 Bxf4, Lc0-Stockfish, CCC 13 Final 2020) 8 Nc3 (not 8 Nxh7?? Nf3+) 8...c6 9 exf5! Be7 (if 9...h6 10 Nce4 Qxf5 11 0-0 c5!? 12 Qd1 hxg5 13 Re1 Kd8 14 Nxg5 Kc7 15 Qd5 Nf3+ 16 Qxf3 Qxf3 17 Nxf3, White is a clear pawn up) 10 Nce4 Qxf5 11 0-0 Nf7 12 Re1 d5 13 Ng3 Qf6 14 Qh4 h6 15 Nh5 Qf5 16 Qb4 Qd7 17 Nf3 Kd8 18 Qb3 Bd6 19 Bf4 with a dominant position for White, Stockfish-Lc0, CCC 13 Final 2020."

I concentrate on 4...Nf6.
  

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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #92 - 04/01/22 at 13:46:37
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Hah - well, the great Youtube Algorithm sees everything, and immediately after I posted here proposed this video to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa6dorGlGvA&t=1011s

No doubt Stockfish's play here is dealt with in the book!
  
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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #91 - 03/31/22 at 07:24:35
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RoleyPoley wrote on 03/30/22 at 13:35:55:
Just adding my name to the list of those here that have bought the book!  Smiley


nice one, thanks Smiley

RoleyPoley wrote on 03/30/22 at 13:35:55:

Grateful for any advice on best order for learning these lines while getting up to speed (i.e perhaps based on frequency they are likely to arise or something


As Bibs says: Ruy Lopez first, then Two Knights with 4 d3.
But then I get Two Knights with 4 d4 (or 3 d4 exd4 4 Bc4) far more often than 4 Ng5, and the Bishop's Opening more than the Scotch.
YMMV.
  

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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #90 - 03/31/22 at 00:42:38
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Bibs wrote on 03/30/22 at 14:01:10:
But that likely depends on locale, and will vary.

I face
  1. Scotch
  2. Spanish
  3. Italian

I play
  1. Vienna
  2. various Three/Four Knights
  3. Bishop's Opening
  4. King's Gambit
And I would be very happy to face anything from the second group.  Smiley
  
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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #89 - 03/30/22 at 19:24:55
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Thanks Bibs.
  

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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #88 - 03/30/22 at 14:01:10
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Frequency, so order of study?

I'd guess Ruy first, then Two Knights (d3 then Ng5), then Scotch. 
Then 'other'.

That's what I see, and my casual empiricism.

But that likely depends on locale, and will vary.
  
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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #87 - 03/30/22 at 13:35:55
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Just adding my name to the list of those here that have bought the book!  Smiley

It will be fun watching games from now on in local league and tournament games to see who else is playing these lines  Grin

Grateful for any advice on best order for learning these lines while getting up to speed (i.e perhaps based on frequency they are likely to arise or something - I'm around 1650)?

I plan to start playing e4e5 next season after a near 30 year break. Since then its been a diet of Alekhines, Sicilians, Frenchs and Scandinavian gambits.  I never knew any theory or plans back then so it's pretty much from scratch.   

Thanks.
  

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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #86 - 03/30/22 at 09:21:30
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Marcellus wrote on 03/23/22 at 21:57:09:
Just purchased. Nice default icon for the .cbv in Chessbase.


Thanks for buying it. And well, the cutlass is the CB repertoire icon Smiley
  

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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #85 - 03/30/22 at 09:17:45
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PANFR wrote on 03/30/22 at 05:57:47:
I just got this myself. It's a wonderful piece of work. 
As a former Jaenisch and Ulvestad player, I am thrilled to see that these old darlings of mine do hold up under close scrutiny.


Thanks very much. Glad you like it Smiley. And yes, I think the Ulvestad and Jaenisch are perfectly sound.
  

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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #84 - 03/30/22 at 09:16:24
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IMJohnCox wrote on 03/29/22 at 14:19:06:
I'd just like to wish this book well. I suspect the best that AlphaZero and its like would say about some of the lines is that it is just possible that they don't lose by force, but let's face it, we all play so badly it doesn't really matter if they do.

Thinking about it, 1 e4 e5 2 Bc5 f5 looks absolutely ridiculous, but on the other hand it seems unlikely that White would be simply lost in the King's Gambit Declined if he passed on move three.


Thanks, John. Yes, you can play any old rubbish really. And that's a nice way to look at the Calabrese Smiley
  

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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #83 - 03/30/22 at 05:57:47
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I just got this myself. It's a wonderful piece of work. 
As a former Jaenisch and Ulvestad player, I am thrilled to see that these old darlings of mine do hold up under close scrutiny.
  
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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #82 - 03/29/22 at 14:19:06
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I'd just like to wish this book well. I suspect the best that AlphaZero and its like would say about some of the lines is that it is just possible that they don't lose by force, but let's face it, we all play so badly it doesn't really matter if they do.

Thinking about it, 1 e4 e5 2 Bc5 f5 looks absolutely ridiculous, but on the other hand it seems unlikely that White would be simply lost in the King's Gambit Declined if he passed on move three.
  
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Re: A disreputable opening repertoire by Jonathan Tait
Reply #81 - 03/23/22 at 21:57:09
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Just purchased. Nice default icon for the .cbv in Chessbase.
Now I'm waiting for Martin's O'Kelly Sicilian book to come out in digital format.
  
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