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Confused_by_Theory God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 662 Location: Europe Joined: 05/13/15 Gender:	Re: Who is at fault? Reply #5 - 12/05/25 at 05:48:42	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hi. The player/-s who submitted a scoresheet with a possible error source is at fault. Under certain conditions one could argue the encoder would have failed to meet some kind of quality standard for the task being done. That is not the same as being at fault for a given situation though. Best regards. / CbT


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up and comer Senior Member Offline Posts: 258 Joined: 10/20/08 Gender:	Re: Who is at fault? Reply #4 - 12/03/25 at 07:49:25	Post Tools	Print Post
	The players are at fault for submitting a result with colors switched. Although they clearly indicated a certain player won in the result and signed to that outcome, which was not understood properly by the encoder when they recorded the winner as having lost. That seems negligent on their part, perhaps due to lack of time or not critically examining the results. In reality both are at fault, though the rules probably hold the players as responsible for submitting incorrect information.

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henrovsky YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 5 Joined: 08/09/23	Re: Who is at fault? Reply #3 - 11/09/25 at 08:50:00	Post Tools	Print Post
	henrovsky wrote on 09/29/25 at 01:30:19: [quote author=717C776B766F6A7260190 link=1759077429/0#0 date=1759077429]Who is at Fault? Who Made the Mistake? Computer Pairings Match: Player A vs. Player B Player B actually won the game. But on the scoresheet, the players recorded it as: Player A: 1 – Player B: 0, instead of the correct result: Player A: 0 – Player B: 1. The encoder then entered the result as 1–0, simply following what was written on the scoresheet. This raises the issue: who is responsible — the players for submitting the wrong scoresheet, or the encoder for not correcting it? Thank you!


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an ordinary chessplayer God Member Offline I used to be not bad. Posts: 1808 Location: Columbus, OH (USA) Joined: 01/02/15	Re: Who is at fault? Reply #2 - 09/29/25 at 05:49:09	Post Tools	Print Post
	Opinion: The players are at fault. Quote: 8.7 At the conclusion of the game both players shall sign both scoresheets, indicating the result of the game. Even if incorrect, this result shall stand, unless the arbiter decides otherwise. https://fide.com/FIDE/handbook/LawsOfChess.pdf You said "scoresheet" singular. Was there only one? It would be doubly strange if two incorrect scoresheets were submitted. However, not submitting a scoresheet is also an error. You said "for not correcting it". Was the encoder was aware that the scoresheet was in error? As for the arbiter deciding otherwise, I think this should only be done if the incorrect result caused a travesty for an innocent third player.


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henrovsky YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 5 Joined: 08/09/23	Re: Who is at fault? Reply #1 - 09/29/25 at 01:30:19	Post Tools	Print Post
	[quote author=717C776B766F6A7260190 link=1759077429/0#0 date=1759077429]Who is at Fault? Who Made the Mistake? Computer Pairings Match: Player A vs. Player B Player B actually won the game. But on the scoresheet, the players recorded it as: Player A: 1 – Player B: 0, instead of the correct result: Player A: 0 – Player B: 1. The encoder then entered the result as 1–0, simply following what was written on the scoresheet. This raises the issue: who is responsible — the players for submitting the wrong scoresheet, or the encoder for not correcting it?


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henrovsky YaBB Newbies Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 5 Joined: 08/09/23	Who is at fault? 09/28/25 at 16:37:09	Post Tools	Print Post
	Who is at Fault? Computer Pairings Player A vs. Player B Player B won the game. However, the scoresheet submitted by the players indicated: Player B 1 – Player A 0, when it should have been recorded as Player A 0 – Player B 1. The encoder simply entered 1 – 0 based on the scoresheet provided. Clearly, there is a discrepancy. The question is: who is at fault — the players who wrote the scoresheet incorrectly, or the encoder who followed it?


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