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Re: Tarrasch Tiviakov 15.Nd2. Twenty moves of theo
Reply #2 - 02/06/03 at 07:16:46
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Hello fianchetto..

Well.. Chessbase-online database is very slow...and I have not kept written the only game after 22...Bf8 (yes,not Bd8).

My game after 22..e3!? is not very interesting and I give only few moves: 23.fxe3 Qb6 24.Bxc6?! (Rxc6 is better) Qxe3+ 25.Kh1 Raf8 26.Re1 Qb6 27.Qe2? and here I have not played Bb4! winning the exchange, because I have too afraid about losing e5.

All variations seem not very crystal clear.

Thank you for your reply.

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Re: Tarrasch Tiviakov 15.Nd2. Twenty moves of theo
Reply #1 - 02/05/03 at 05:07:10
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Hi dom, 

i looked a bit at your game, and you say that 22. ...Bf8 (i guess it's f8 instead of d8 ) was tried uncessfully. 22. ...Bf8 with the plan of landing in h6 looks quite a good idea, in order to contest the c file and take good squares to the Rook and queen. Black seems to get good play in the queenside.
Your move 22. ...e3 looks like a good bet too and i could not find anything really dangerous for black after 23.Rxc6 exf+ 24.Rxf2 Qa5.

Do you have a game with 22. ...Bf8 and the end of yours ?
  
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C06: Tarrasch Tiviakov 15.Nd2. Twenty moves theory
02/03/03 at 07:13:25
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Hello,
I played yesterday one game with 22 Moves on theory on Tarrasch as Black, and I would like to know what you think about 22...e3!?
Delpech-Laurain,France 2003
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.Bd3 c5 6.c3 Nc6 7.Ne2 cxd4 8.cxd4 f6 9.exf6 Nxf6 10.Nf3 Bd6 11.oo (it's main closed line of the Tarrasch; Black must now choose between Qb6,Qc7,oo) Qc7 12.Bg5 (all purpose move, White can play Bh4-Bg3 to exchange dark bishops or play back bishop to e3 square) oo 13.Rc1 (White has done all moves without choosing stategy) Ng4!? (threats h2 at once) 14.Ng3  (if h3 then  common is pseudo-exchange on f3 with Rxf3-gxf3?!-Nh2; with this knight move, White can't go back to classical variation with Nc3 when Black has to loose tempo with a6) g6 (now position is strange for White since h3 looses pawn on Nxf2, and bishop on g5 can't go on g3 square anymore) 15.Nd2!? (Tiviakov's move ; Nh4 with same idea can be tried too)  e5 16.Be2 Nf6 17.Bxf6 Rxf6 18.Nde4 dxe4 19.d5 Bf5 (if 19...e3 now, Black lost exchange in Wodnickziak-Newman 2000 game: 20.Ne4 exf2+ 21.Kh1 Rf4 22.dxc6 Be7 23.Nc3 Qc6 24.Nd5) 20.dxc6 bxc6 21.Bc4+ (21.Bd5 see Kosteniuk-Mislano,Biel 2002) Kh8 22.Bd5
And here Bd8 and Bd7 was tried uncessfully. Delpech, told me that after Bd7, Tiviakov gives advantage for White after Bxe4 and then h4-h5 (logical attack on pawn complex on the king side).
But here I played 22..e3 (whose obvious idea is counter-attack with exf2+ or Qb6 after fxe3).
What do you think about this move or previous moves in the game ?
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