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Re: Englund Gambit
Reply #8 - 09/09/07 at 15:52:54
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I used to play a lot of these, and indeed in 1 minute chess I still do. Sadly, however, that is where their place lies.

1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 3.Nf3 Qe7? 4.Qd5 f6 5.exf6 Nxf6 6.Qb3 d5 7.Bg5! Bd7 8.Nbd2 O-O-O 9.O-O-O Be6 10.Qa4 Qc5 11.Nb3! Qxf2 12.e3 leaves black in dire straits - black tried and got away with 12...Ne4!? in one game, but if white had taken up the challenge with 13.Bxd8! Qxe3+ 14.Kb1 Nxd8 15.Nbd4! Bc5 16.Nxe6 Nxe6 17.Ba6!! intending Rhe1, Bxb7+ and Qb5+, or simply Qxa6+ and Qxe6, then black would have gotten what he deserved.

1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 3.Nf3 f6 leaves white with a pleasant choice between 4.e4! fxe5 5.Bb5! transposing to the 4.d3 line of the Schliemann which is causing some headaches (Qd3-c4 being the main idea), or 4.exf6 Nxf6 5.Bg5 Bc5 6.e3 d6 7.Nc3, where I struggle to believe black can drum up any compensation, down a tempo on an already-shaky gambit.

1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 3.Nf3 d6 has been discussed elsewhere, however 4.exd6 Bxd6 5.Nc3 Bg4 6.e4 Qd7 7.Bb5 O-O-O 8.h3 Bh5 9.Qd5! gives black nothing for the pawn after 9...Bxf3 10.gxf3 Nge7 11.Bxc6! Nxc6 12.Be3 Nb4 13.Qb3 Kb8 14.O-O-O f6 15.Bc5!, as previously played.

1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 3.Nf3 Bc5 could be the most resilient of these, but 4.e4! Qe7 (4...f6 5.Bc4! fxe5 6.Bxg8! Rxg8 7.Qd5 ends the game rather quickly too) 5.Nc3 Bb4 6.Bd2 leaves black with a rotten position after both 6...Bxc3 7.Bxc3 f6 8.Bc4 fxe5 9.Bxg8 Rxg8 10.Qd5, and 6...Nxe5 7.Nd5 Nxf3+ 8.gxf3 Bxd2+ 9.Qxd2 Qe5 (else 10.Qf4) 10.O-O-O intending f4 with splat.

And of course, last but not least, another one of Lev D. Zilbermints Esquire's patented and self-named lines:
1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 3.Nf3 Nge7 4.Bf4 Ng6 and now both 5.e3 and 5.Bg3 appear to have given white an extra pawn. Hmm... 

Anyone who enjoys playing attacking, unsound chess at any cost, or is looking for some new additions to their one-minute opening repertoire could do far worse than taking a look here. Anyone who is looking for a serious opening should leave this thread immediately. This stuff is junk, and this thread is another one which was pushing up the daisies for a reason. 

The reason: 1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 +-. No exceptions.
  

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Re: Englund Gambit
Reply #7 - 09/09/07 at 07:18:51
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This is an old thread that was gathering dust, so let's bring it back! Now, about the Englund Gambit:

1 d4 e5 2 de5 Nc6 3 Nf3 Qe7 is the Englund Gambit proper. Named after Fritz Anton Carl Englund, who held a small thematic tournament with it in Sweden, back in early 1933.

Instead of 3...Qe7, Black can play the following alternatives:

3...f6, Soller Gambit, similar to Blackmar-Diemer from the Black side.

3...d6, Hartlaub Gambit

3...Bc5, Felbecker Gambit

3...Nge7, Zilbermints Gambit
  
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Re: Englund Gambit
Reply #6 - 04/13/04 at 17:37:17
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Of course there is always 1.d4 e5 2.e4!? when it is not Black anymore, who plays swashbuckinly.........
  

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Re: Englund Gambit
Reply #5 - 04/13/04 at 07:15:10
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Problem is, White can simply give back the pawn and get on with developing: 1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 3.Nf3 Qe7 4.Nc3 Nxe5 5.e4.

White just ends up with a space advantage and a lead in development - presumably not what the swashbuckling gambiteer is after when he plays 1...e5 ...
  

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Re: Englund Gambit
Reply #4 - 04/11/04 at 10:02:21
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Concerning 4.Qd5, I agree that this is very good for White but I wouldn't call it simple after 4...f6.  Also Black has other tries besides 3...Qe7.  I don't really trust them either but there is room for exploration.
  
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Re: Englund Gambit
Reply #3 - 04/11/04 at 06:57:16
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I used to play it at the 1400 Elo level, and even then some people knew the lines which left black bankrupt.

I wouldn't touch this one with a 40 foot pole -  1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 Nc6 3.Nf3 Qe7 4.Qd5 refutes it, simple as that.

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Reply #2 - 04/06/04 at 16:41:24
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It can be a good surprise weapon, but it's not something you want to play against a prepared player.
  
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Reply #1 - 04/06/04 at 13:11:47
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MCO says it leaves White with a large plus.
  
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Englund Gambit
04/06/04 at 11:32:22
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Hello, I have been looking at the Englund gambit.  Do any of you feel that it is a viable defence for around the ELO 2000 level?  I like unorthodox openings, in general.
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