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Re: Change division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #16 - 12/16/04 at 17:51:03
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Fed really needs to be removed.

His latest update, late as usual, contains a dismal five games.  I may not be annoyed at the dearth of games, would they have been annotated well.  But once again, the games in this section have crap for annotations.  I think all he does is list some other games in the line and then put Fritz evaluations into words.  For example: "After this black is better."  or "White has come out of this in pretty good shape."  Honestly, I don't want to pay someone to tell me what Fritz thinks.  I can do that without need of a GM.   

To sum up, GET RID OF THE FED.  HE SUCKS.

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Re: Change division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #15 - 12/12/04 at 09:21:05
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Mikhail Golubev also subscribes to Chris Ward's section (and no others!) Smiley
  
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Re: Change division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #14 - 12/12/04 at 03:41:06
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I like most of your suggestions except rather than adding open sicilian stuff to dragon chess publishing could !!!! hire another author and make two seperate open sicilian sections?  Also, the other suggestion I don't like is covering just some lines of the sicilian with each update, you don't want to be left in the dark for a whole extra month on novelties in the lines you play do you?
  
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Re: Change division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #13 - 12/09/04 at 20:06:15
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I think the Dragon Site is great the way it is and should be left alone and not diluted. Quality is more important than quantity, and I can say that the Dragon site is definetly the former.  Grin

The Dragon site is full of original analysis, ideas and TN's and has become an invaluable resource and laboratory for many a Dragoneer the World over. So stimulating is the site, that reknowned theorticians often join the debates on the forum, such as Mikhail Golubev and DaCosta Junior to name a couple, and in many cases the topics on the forum often reflect Chris's thought provoking updates.

One also must not forget that Chris Ward is a reknowned expert on the Dragon (So much so, that even other GM Dragon experts sometimes seek his advice on certain lines. Cebalo is one such GM that readily comes to mind), so to water down his site with other Sicilians would only to my mind reduce his effectiveness and appeal.  

Yes it is true that Feds site sucks, but to be fair it cannot be easy to have to cover such wide terrain in perhaps the most complicated opening in chess, after all, thats why they call it the Sicilian Labyrinth. Still it seems to me, as echoed by some of the other posters, that Fed does not lose any sleep putting his updates 
together, although I disagree that he is always late. Admittedly I could be wrong about his tardiness, as to be honest I do not anticipate or monitor his updates that closely, since whether they are early or late the annotations are too flimsy to be of any real benefit to a tournament player. 

It should be noted however, that when GM Paul Motwani ran the also large 1e4 e5 section, he did a fantastic job. He gave repertoire suggestions, original ideas and quality analysis. His Double Trouble (Could also have been named Secret Weapons) site for Gold members was a touch of genius. So while it is challenging to manage a large site effectively, it can be done with planning. One suggestion could be to focus in depth on maybe two Sicilian lines per Update, say the Rauzer and the Schevenigen Keres attack, rather than attempt to cover too many lines at once and do justice to none.

The key is to have a user friendly format that seeks not only to show the latest games, but also to explain and enlighten the subscriber in such a way that he may more readily absorb the ideas and use them successfully in his own games. In this regard I  think that Eric Prie's approach is very interesting and systematic, he focusess on just one variation at a time, at the moment it is mainly the Trompovsky. He analyses one recent main game and then provides supplementary games, also analysed, to reinforce the main ideas he is trying to convey.

To conclude, I would say that if u want to modify the Open Sicilian site in some way that's fine with me, but please do not interfere with the Dragon Site. Remember, if it aint broke don't fix it.

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Top  Grin  

Postscript: The Blindfold thingy for Gold Members was cute while it lasted, but it would be nice if you could find a way to bring back my beloved DOUBLE TROUBLE. On another tact and in an attempt to temper some of the Fed Bashing, it should be noted that he did an excellent Repertoire book on the Benko gambit some years ago.        

   
  

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Re: Change division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #12 - 12/09/04 at 10:00:17
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Yes, I strongly agree go out an buy his book on the English Attack, start to read it, realize how bad it is, then buy Tapani Sammalvuo's book on the English Attack possibly up there with my favorite repetoir books, absolutely great.  Right up there with Watson's Play the French and Gallagher's Play the King's Indian both also great books, but yea, don't waste time and money trying to read the Fed book, it's as bad as his video's on chess.fm and those are REALLY bad.
  
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Reply #11 - 12/05/04 at 21:18:15
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you'll just love Fed's book on the English Attack. hahaha
  
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Re: Change division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #10 - 12/05/04 at 15:30:11
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Pardon the bluntness, but there doesn't seem to be a gentler way to put it:  The main problem with the Open Sicilians section is that Fed does a lousy job with it! (I do not currently subscribe to it, but am assuming that the pathetic quality of his work has not changed from what I've seen earlier.)  That it may be too big a section for one author to deal with properly is of secondary significance.  If we "move some openings from Fed's bit to Chris's" as Tony suggests all this will mean is that Fed does a lousy job with a smaller group of openings.  Isn't this just obvious?

The Open Sicilian Section is too important to continue to leave it, or any part of it, in Fed's hands.  This is definitely a section I'd like to subscribe to were it done well (e.g., something approaching the quality of Hazai's annotated Open Sicilian games), but I will not waste money on a subscription to any section as feeble as this one has been under Fed.
  

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Re: Change division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #9 - 11/01/04 at 02:25:29
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To quote Markovich:
"You could imagine separate sections for (1) Najdorf-Sheveningen-Classical,  (2) Sveshnikov-Kalashnikov-Lowenthal,  (3) other including Kan-Taimanov-4 Knights."

which makes a lot of sense to me, if you could find the people to do it.  I am not so sure about Ward doing another Sicilian.  Does he play another Sicilian besides the Dragon?  If he doesn't, I think that puts the quality of the updates at a serious risk.  I think the playing experience adds a lot to the updates.  For example, I like seeing sections done by Prie, Mikhalevski, and Sherbakov for this perspective.  For example, it would be nice to see a Sheshnikov player cover the Sveshnikov.
  

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Re: Change division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #8 - 10/18/04 at 18:31:26
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I agree that it a change in division of the Sicilians is not needed, only a change in the master working on them.

The section is vast yes (much vaster than d4 d5 which is by the way, a misnomer, should be titled d4 d5 c4), but it's no job that could not be undertaken.  The e4 e5 section as well it absolutely a huge amount of material, if I'm remembering the ECO codes correctly, more than the Open Sicilians cover, and Nigel does a good job with that section.   

The section could however be tipped in favor of covering the more popular Sicilians (more Najdorf than Scheveningen for example), this way the most important things are being explored more often.   

One last thought, if the section were to be divided, I would recommend dividing it into 2 ... d6 and 2 ... Nc6 + 2 ... e6.  (Except the classical can occur from both move orders...kind of an anomaly there...)

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BTW, I'm insulted that you call the Najdorf the "Rolls Royce" of Sicilians.  The Najdorf may be popular but it's so ugly and a waste...ugh...

Not to mention that Rolls Royces suck...so therefore I declare the Sveshnikov the Lamborghini of the Sicilians.   Grin
  
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Re: Change division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #7 - 10/13/04 at 17:14:11
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In concurrance with dearlv, I don't think the switch makes sense unless it will mean an increase in timeliness and quality. Ward, though I enjoy his updates, is consistently tardy. The August update was released just a few weeks ago!! In addition, it will be more costly to subscribers if they want full coverage of the Sicilian defense.

If splitting up the sicilians would make the updates better, more in-depth, and more timely, I would definitely split up the sections. However, if you were to split sicilians up into 3 or 4 different sections, I think it might be nice to have a "Sicilians" option which would include the Anti-Sicilians and all of the Open Sicilians at one price.
  
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Reply #6 - 10/13/04 at 16:38:41
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the problem isn't that open sicilians is too much. Schebakov does a great job with the vastness of 1.d4 d5. the problem is it's done half assed. it's always late and looks like it's been worked on for an hour. just a few brief comments on a few recent games. you're best off using books and databases to follow the sicilian lines you're interested in.
  
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Re: Change division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #5 - 10/13/04 at 08:21:47
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I am the only one who thinks that the Open Sicilians section is too big, and the Dragons too small? What about moving some openings from Fed's bit to Chris's?


I suggested something similar some time ago:

Re: How good are the different sections?
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"I've been a subscriber almost from the beginning and have watched with interest the various sections evolve. 
 
IMHO the weakest section BY FAR is the Open Sicilian section. This is partly down to the Fed himself, whose work-rate does not exactly  impress, but mainly down to the fact that, even with the Dragons in a separate section of their own, the Open Sicilian is just too big a topic for any one author to deal with properly.   
 
I therefore suggest that (at least) the "Rolls Royce" of Sicilians (the Najdorf, of course) should be given its own section in Chess Publishing and entrusted to an author who is an acknowledged expert in it. 
 
A similar case could also be made for a separate section for the clear No2 of Open Sicilians - the Sveshnikov."

But apparently there are technical problems in creating further sections, so I think Tony's suggestion of redistributing stuff between the two existing sections is a good idea. 

But would it really be fair to expect Chris Ward for instance to produce high-quality material on Sicilians that he doesn't play e.g. the Sveshnikov or the Najdorf? So perhaps a further step then could be to revise the workload within each of the two sections - (contracts etc. permitting) would it be possible for one or two new specialist "authors" to be recruited to share the workload in each of the two re-organised sections? [Hint: Tony himself has written a fine book on the Najdorf!]
  
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Re: Change division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #4 - 10/13/04 at 06:50:41
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Certainly from a workload standpoint it makes sense.  Any idea which variation(s) would be a good fit in Chris Ward's section?
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Re: Change division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #3 - 10/13/04 at 05:37:37
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I didn't mean the Forum division, but on ChessPublishing.com! Smiley The Dragons only covers B70-79 (and a few odds and ends) whilst Fed covers most of the rest from B30-B99.
I don't see what their being late has to do with anything?! Undecided
  
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Re: Channge division of Open Sicilians?
Reply #2 - 10/12/04 at 18:53:09
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If you count the posts, you might draw the opposite conclusion...
  

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