Since starting this post I've given up the King's Indian, at least for the time being, but it would be nice if Black could still make 10...Nd7 work (especially if Dragonlord's idea really is better for White in the 10...b6 variation, for what it's worth I'm a little skeptical but am too lazy to look at it closely now).

As a sidenote I agree with Alumbrado that the old ...e5 lines don't appear to equalize but I had thought that the Panno variation was still a decent option.  If there's a debate on that here then perhaps that could be a topic for another thread here.

All in all the King's Indian seems pretty healthy to me with the Classical Bayonet still the most theoretical challenging (and ...Na6 remains unrefuted as well).  Does anything else really even come close?  Time will tell.

Hello all!

Lets get the ball rolling on this variation.

Some say that after (1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6  3. Nc3 Bg7  4. e4 d6  5. f3 O-O  6.Be3 c5  7. dxc5 dxc5  8. Qxd8 Rxd8  9. Bxc5 Nc6  10. Nge2) 10... b6 is the best move. Well, after 11. Ba3 e6 there are three moves available on the Fritz theory cd.
One is 12. Rd1 Nd7 13.b3 Bb7 and here the continuation is 14.g3 which I believe is dubious. 
What about 14.Nb5  ?  I believe white is better here.

Anybody with some fresh analysis of these lines?

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Time to re-visit this one.



So is 11.Bf2 really the end of the 10...Nd7 variation?.

Toppers

11.Bf2! does indeed seem strong and casts doubt on 10...Nfd7. Gallagher was struggling in my opinion and was fortunate to save a draw, it is doubtful that he would repeat 10...Nfd7 again.

Luckily for Black 10...b6 is fully adequate and he has nothing to fear, in fact white has to play very purposefully just to avoid being worse.

Conclusion: Samisch players looking for an easy risk free edge against 6...c5 will need to look elsewhere.

Toppylov      

White has to demonstrate good reasons for NOT accepting that it is a drawn position after:



1. d4 Nf6 
2. c4 g6 
3. Nc3 Bg7 
4. e4 d6 
5. f3  O-O 
6.Be3  c5 
7. dxc5 dxc5 
8. Qxd8 Rxd8 
9. Bxc5  Nc6 
10. Nge2  Nd7 
11. Bf2  b6 
12. Rd1   Bb7 
13. Nd4  Nc5 
14. Nxc6  Bxc6 
15. Be2  Bxc3+ 
16. bxc3 Rxd1+ 
17. Kxd1 Rd8+ 
18.Kc1 Ba4 
19. Bxc5 bxc5 

I will do my best. I believe Nb4 is a mistake though I will check it and post my analysis tonight. At the moment I am looking at 26.c4!? in the Dragon forum, I don't know, I like 26...a5 or even Qa6, but I don't know. I have to analyze this positions with my inexperienced mind and my trusty computer. But that damn thing just doesn't understand the openings I play. The King's Indian, the blackmar diemar and the dragon. It seems I am left to my own devices, but I will see what I can do.

I have no idea what black should play I have looked at 11...Nde5 12.Nf4 Nb4, but after 13.Rd1 Nc2+ 14.Ke2 I see no sensible way forward for black... Maybe black´s best choice is 12...Na5 what do you think?

I would really like the board to analyze the Gallagher game together I think we could piece together some interesting lines, here.