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Re: Best Plan For White Against Dutch Stonewall?
Reply #2 - 09/04/05 at 23:07:24
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I saw GM Shavaradorj play the Bf4 idea today.  He coupled it up with an early g4!? and won fairly quickly against a NM.
  
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Re: Best Plan For White Against Dutch Stonewall?
Reply #1 - 09/04/05 at 22:35:03
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Good old Taimanov (1980) and Schwarz (1964) recommend 1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3 Nf6 4.Bg2 Be7 (c6 indeed, if Black wants to play d5 and Bd6 but White has 5.Nc3 d5 6.Nh3) 5.Nf3 o-o 6.o-o d5 (as you know, I prefer d6 or a5) 7.Nc3 c6 8.Bg5 (if 8.Qc2 is more precise depends on the reply Ne4) Nbd7 9.e3 Qe8 10.Qc2 += Botvinnik-Smyslov, WCh 1958.
The Iljin-Zjenevsky is easier against Blackburne's Nh3 system than the Stonewall, because the knight on f4 provokes e6-e5. In the latter White would love to execute the manoeuvres Ng1-h3-f4-d3 and Nb1-d2-f3, but cannot force this ideal setup without allowing a superior version of the IZ.

Another recommendation, that might suit your more, is 4.Bf4 (or 4.Nf3 first) d5 (d6; Bb4) 5.e3 c6 6.Bd3 Be7 7.Nf3 (7.Nge2 intending castling queenside) o-o 8.o-o. Again both T and S promise White an edge.

Finally T gives 4.e3 d5 5.Bd3 c6 6.Qc2 Bd6 7.Nf3 o-o 8.h3 Ne4 and now I quote:
9.g4! g6 (nach 9...fxg4 10.hxg4 Txf3 11.Sxe4 hat Weiss heftigen Angriff) 10.gxf5 gxf5 11.a3 Sd7 12.b3 De7 13.Lb2 b6 14.Tg1+ Kh8 15.c5 Lc7 16.b4 bxc5 17.dxc5 e5 18.o-o-o mit besseren Chancen für Weiss, Podgajez-Karasjew, Odessa 1975.
For the English speaking: D=Q, T=R, L=B and S=N.
This game is not in my database, but I have found Heinatz-Bohrer, Pontresina 2000.
  

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Best Plan For White Against Dutch Stonewall?
09/03/05 at 23:57:48
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Am I the only one that finds the Stonewall irritating?  Angry
It's like... you know Black has all these pawn weaknesses, but trying to win is another matter entirely.  Palliser's 1. d4 e6 2. c4 f5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e3 d5 5. Bd3 c6 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. f3 0-0 8. Nge2 setup was my favourite. But now it seems to me Black equalises comfortably by preparing and then playing dxc4/e5. Undecided

So I suppose 3. g3 Nf6 4. Bg2 is the main line for a good reason, and I understand 4... c6 is meant to dissuade Nh3, so is Nh3 the most effective weapon against the Stonewall? If so why? 

(ps. for those who own it: does Starting Out Dutch help in this area?)

What would you play against the stonewall? Opinions please Smiley
  
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