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Poll Question: Who will win the NFL Super Bowl This Year?
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New England Patriots    
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Philadelphia Eagles    
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Indianapolis Colts    
  2 (7.4%)
Pittsburgh Steelers    
  5 (18.5%)
Minnesota Vikings    
  2 (7.4%)
Kansas City Chiefs    
  1 (3.7%)
Seattle Seahawks    
  2 (7.4%)
Denver Broncos    
  2 (7.4%)
Why didn't you mention my team?    
  4 (14.8%)
Who cares?    
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Reply #27 - 10/06/05 at 12:04:45
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Yes, look at how many more posts the "English Premiership" has!  I've been pretty content with just watching the Colts go to 4-0.  Also, the offensive appears back on track now.  Still, it's a long way to the Super Bowl.
  
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Reply #26 - 10/02/05 at 15:21:24
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This thread is a bit of an uphill slog for me.  It seems that I'm the only yank who looks at this stuff.  Or at least I'm the only American who follows football. Sad

Anyway, my beloved Broncos won an away game, to the pathetic looking Jacksonville Jaguars (20-7).  I'll give a complete update of the day's events later, but the defending champions, New England, really are missing some of their key players and lost ignominiously to the San Diego Chargers today.
  
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Reply #25 - 09/26/05 at 23:29:27
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Back to the games, whatever you call the sport.


Green Bay is 0-3 so far this season and look worse than their record.

The Broncos just trounced one of the most dangerous teams in the AFC, the Chiefs, 30-10 at home.  By my count, Denver played three consecutive halves of high-school level football and have now played three consecutive halves of play-off level football.  If (and this is a big if) Denver can play this well next week at Jacksonville, Denver's back.   

However, Denver has played only one game on the road this season, and looked pathetic.  Jacksonville may or may not be a play-off team this year, but the Broncos, even with injuries, have no excuses.

The undefeated teams right now contain one expected team and three surprise teams:

The Indianapolis Colts look very dangerous because they now have a really good defense along with last year's best offense.  (That offense has yet to show up this season though.)

The Cinncinati Bengals are a huge surprise as a 3-0 team, and look likely to make the play-offs for the first time in 15 years!

In the NFC, there are two teams that remain undefeated:

The Washington Redskins (huh?) and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.  At least the Bucs are a play-off quality team, but the Redskins are a complete mystery to me.  We'll see in the next few weeks whether they're for real.
  
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Reply #24 - 09/26/05 at 23:23:33
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"The reason most of the world seems to find soccer more compelling than American football"
I don't agree with Alumbrado. In the time soccer/football was developed (1870-1939), England ruled the world and the waves. Because of social reasons soccer/football pretty soon became the working class sport (the same happened in The Netherlands in the 1920's). Colonized and other countries happen to take over some parts of the culture of the most powerful country of the world; the need to join the winner is very human. This also explains why soccer/football hardly became popular in the USA - and why the whole world eats McBurgers and drinks CC.
The USA were simply to late to spread their sports. The Netherlands though were far too early - otherwise this would have been a thread on korfball.

Those who think the English PL overrated and are able to read Dutch might be interested in:

http://www.trouw.nl/hetnieuws/sport/article21360.ece/Arsenal+%2F+Wenger+zorgt+vo...

The headline means: Wenger causes an identity crisis.
  

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Reply #23 - 09/26/05 at 13:22:37
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Oh, and I agree with most of the world that American football aint football, and should change its name.  But to what


'American Rugby' does sound like a much better descriptive name. 

- Which reminds me of an old Michael Moore 'documentary' (for lack of a better word) in which he proposes that the USA should rename itself simply 'The Big One', (which should supposedly deter all enemies of the US). Furthermore, he also wanted to change the national hymn to some tune people will remember the lyrics of, i.e. 'We Will Rock You'! Cheesy

All three suggestions sound like good ideas imo, so I suppose none of them will be realised...  Cry
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Reply #22 - 09/26/05 at 11:29:41
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Oh, and I agree with most of the world that American football aint football, and should change its name.  But to what???


The question i intended to put up earlier after reading Glenn's post  barring a dinner appointment was why is it called American football in the 1st place??? Football is a misnomer here imo.

To what name?? - how abt 'American Rugby'? Both play by running whilst holding the ball. Both have kicks over the bar after a touchdown/try. Both games are also very highly contact games. As to the differences in rules & scoring.....well the Americans & British have so many differences in the English language alone, so what's the big deal for differences between British rugby (Rugby Union) & 'American Rugby' rules??

Combine Association Football & Rugby Union rules and you get Aussie Rules Football.
  

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Reply #21 - 09/26/05 at 08:29:59
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Alumbrado is right on all points, but...

While I prefer soccer/football to football/American football, I know it's largely for cultural reasons.  I discovered the joy of soccer when I move to my mother's land for my father's tour of duty there in the early 1970s.  I was at the right age to start playing sports in an organized way, and my time in England marks one of the happiest times in my childhood.  (BTW psychologists agree that ages 9-11 should be the happiest times for developing males.)

My father used to watch football when I was too young to really understand the game, but I saw how much he enjoyed it.  So for me, watching the game became part of being an adult.  I didn't find out until much later that my father had been a football star in Georgia.   

When I moved to America, the Dolphins and Vikings were the dominant teams in the NFL, and all the school kids were choosing sides.  It was then that I discovered that my watching my father watch football was something other kids respected.   

When I was asked who were my favorite teams, I responded with "the Broncos" (who were terrible, but local) and the Packers.  Everyone thought I knew a lot about football because I mentioned one of the best teams historically in the game.

I started watching football and rooting for the Broncos because that's what an adolescent male did in my town in those days.  I fell in love with the game, and now I have several loves in sports.

I love track and field, especially the distance races that I ran in high school.  I love to play and watch soccer, which is a very free-flowing game.  I like basketball for the same reason.  I fell in love with hockey because of its speed (although I still hate the large number of "cheap" goals that are scored on ricochets).   

I love football because the breaks between plays actually build the tension and importance of each play.  This makes the play-calling very cerebral.  It isn't chess.  But as George Carlin once said, it's "organized violence punctuated by committee meetings." It's fun to watch!

So I am one of the rare breed that truly loves both "footballs".  Oh, and I agree with most of the world that American football aint football, and should change its name.  But to what???
  
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Reply #20 - 09/26/05 at 05:33:41
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I bet I'm one of many Americans who find it almost incomprehensible how someone could find Football (Soccer, and where did that name come from?) more exciting than American football.


The rules of football were codified by the Football Association (FA) in 1863, and the name "association football" was coined to distinguish the game from other forms of football, specifically rugby football.  The term soccer derives from the abbreviation of "association" to "assoc.", apparently.

The reason most of the world seems to find soccer more compelling than American football (the last World Cup was the sportin event with the most TV viewers of all time - more than any Olympics even though it is just one sport) is simply that it is usually a freer-flowing game.  In American football, there are a lot of set plays and the ball is not in play for large chunks of the allotted time, whereas in football sometimes the action can be very fast.

Also, it is easier to have a kick around or a quick 5-a-side soccer match with just a ball, a relatively small playing area and, as the saying goes "jumpers for goalposts".  So the game "catches on" more easily.

Perhaps the most famous player of all time, Pelé initially hated that name (not his real one - which if memory serves is Edson Arantes do Nascimento) because it reminded him of his poor upbringing.  The name derives from the game of pelota, played on the streets of Brazil using a ball made from rolled up socks and the like, because they were too poor to have a 'proper' ball.
  

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I see the Seahawks completely crushed the cardinals Grin
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Reply #18 - 09/26/05 at 02:16:05
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I HAD to pick the Colts but if I were putting my money on it I would probably choose either the Patriots or the Steelers.   

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Yes, I suppose that is quite true.  But "American football" is gaining a following worldwide.  I'm sure it has more to do with what one is used to but I bet I'm one of many Americans who find it almost incomprehensible how someone could find Football (Soccer, and where did that name come from?) more exciting than American football.  Certainly the former is gaining more support in the US but I doubt it will overtake the NFL anytime soon.  I think the primary reason for the popularity of football (soccer) is the fact one so often gets to root for one's own country.  Having said that I certainly don't understand the finer points of football (soccer, and yes I feel I do have to add this each time) so it's like a non-chessplayer telling me that chess is boring!  Long live football (soccer)!   Grin
  
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Reply #17 - 09/20/05 at 00:17:53
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Amazing that they still could push their pieces....
  

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I don't know when you were watching NFL last in Sweden


I'm not quite sure when it was either, sometime between 1989 and 1992 I suppose. It was probably live from the play-offs as the chosen game started around midnight. I remember that Miami was wicked in those days, they had some guy who seemed able run through defenders like quicksilver, scoring touchdowns from mid field rushes about every third time he got the 'ball'...

Around here American Football is even smaller than chess. In my chess club in the early 90s we actually had a couple of players alternating between the two. - Every time they had a broken arm they'd start showing up at the club again...
  
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Reply #14 - 09/19/05 at 10:22:57
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Answering questions in reverse order:

The Dallas Cowboys and Miami Dolphins are still around, but are no longer the powerful teams they were in the early 1990s.  The Cowboys have been rebuilding and are picked to make the play-offs by most experts, but aren't expected to do much more than that.  (Twelve of the thirty teams make the play-offs in the NFL.)   

The Dolphins, as I mentioned after the Broncos lost to them, are in even worse shape.  They had a losing record last year (something like 5-11) and don't look likely to improve much on that record this year.  I don't know when you were watching NFL last in Sweden, but there have been no relocations recently except for the New Orleans Saints.   

The Saints will still call themselves the "New Orleans Saints" this year, but will have to play their first "home" game against the New York Giants in Giants' Stadium.  The rest of their home games will be split between San Antonio, Texas and Baton Rouge, Louisiana.  It's weird, but the rather small town of Baton Rouge has suddenly become the largest city in region.

The Seattle Seahawks lost abysmally in their first game, but won impressively at home in their second game.  I don't have any clue what that really means.  They were schizophrenic last year, and may be again this year too.   

The Minnesota Vikings have traditionally been one of the most talented teams with the weakest sense of "team" in the league.  This year, they don't even have the talent that they usually have, so they may be a big disappointment.  They've lost two games in a row and have looked bad doing so.

A detached viewer (which is just about impossible in sports) would probably enjoy watching the Philadelphia Eagles, Atlanta Falcons, and Cinncinati Bengals play this year.  These are some of the most interesting teams in terms of their players and histories.
  
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Reply #13 - 09/19/05 at 04:29:52
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I suppose I'll have to go for the Minnesota Vikings, just for their name! Cheesy

How come the Dallas Cowboys and Miami isn't mentioned? Have these teams been discontinued or relocated since the last time Am Football was sent on swedish tv? (it's been a while since then, anyway I remember it as fairly interesting to watch Undecided  )
  
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