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lnn2 God Member Offline Posts: 1504 Location: nc Joined: 09/22/04	Re: Nimzo/QID 6. Nd2: new critical line Reply #7 - 04/30/06 at 17:15:46	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hello, going OT, but yes 5. Qb3 is worth a try. though i suspect black is fine after 5... c5 6. Bg5 Bb7 7. e3 0-0 8. Rd1 cd4 9. ed4 if he refrains from ...Bxf3 (Black couldn't resist and lost in I.Sokolov-Emms), e.g. 9... Bxc3+ 10. bxc3 d6 is fine for Black. In 6. a3 line, think there was a critical I.Sokolov-Ivanchuk Corus06, where White lost with his patent 9. c6. Still, agree with you, these lines are worth looking at.


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John Simmons(Guest) Guest	Re: Nimzo/QID 6. Nd2: new critical line Reply #6 - 04/27/06 at 17:09:04	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hello, 5.Qb3 might be worth considering instead. For example, there are quite unique positions after 5... c5 6. a3 Ba5 7.Bg5 or 6.Bg5 immediately. In the 6. Bg5 line there is some analysis in the Gambit book on the Queen's Indian, that tries to improve on a Gelfand game, that has not been played yet. Bye John S


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lnn2 God Member Offline Posts: 1504 Location: nc Joined: 09/22/04	Re: Nimzo/QID 6. Nd2: new critical line Reply #5 - 04/26/06 at 10:11:29	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hello, Both Ward and Sherbakov (NIC yearbook76) don't give any good suggestions for White in the 7... Be7 8. e4 Nxe4 line, and i don't fancy 8. Bg3 (Ward) or 8. e3 (Sherbakov) at the moment, so Black looks okay in the whole 6. Nd2 variation to me. Then again, not sure if many Blacks will relish defending the Ward-Hunt endgame, but since endgame openings like the Berlin Ruy are popular now, who knows.


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John Simmons(Guest) Guest	Re: Nimzo/QID 6. Nd2: new critical line Reply #4 - 04/26/06 at 09:00:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hello, I haven't played the Nimzo for a few years, and watching the recent Ward v Hunt game, was suprised by the continuation 7... Be7 8. e4 Nxe4, was only familar with 7...BxN and 7...h6 followed by g5. Checking out the game in Ward's book on this line of the Nimzo 4.Nf3, there were several previous games, and with a casual look, Ward's latest effort looked like a micro improvement, that didnot change the evaluation that black was equal in this line. (Of course, subscribers to ChessPublishing might know differently 7... Be7 8. e4 Nxe4 ). From what I remember of the 7...BxN line, they were starting to play Nc6 and Qe7 idea there too, but not sure what to make of 7...Nc6 at the moment. Bye John S


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lnn2 God Member Offline Posts: 1504 Location: nc Joined: 09/22/04	Re: Nimzo/QID 6. Nd2: new critical line Reply #3 - 04/23/06 at 16:35:21	Post Tools	Print Post
	Haven't really looked at concrete lines yet, but i guess the "punishment" of 7... Nc6 should start with something like 8. d5. After 8... Ne5 9. e4, 9. Bg3 or 9. Qb3, the game starts to look interesting It seems odd that 7... Nc6 isn't more popular, since 6. Nd2 abandons the d4 pawn, so it makes sense to attack it and develop with tempo!


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Ptero Full Member Offline When all else fails, read the instructions. Posts: 220 Joined: 03/22/06	Re: Nimzo/QID 6. Nd2: new critical line Reply #2 - 04/23/06 at 16:09:11	Post Tools	Print Post
	On second thought, after 8.a3 Bxc3 9.bxc3 Qe7!? 10.e4 e5, we get the same position as in Zvjaginsev-Karpov, only with the pawn on a3 instead of a2, so it might not make that much of a difference


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Ptero Full Member Offline When all else fails, read the instructions. Posts: 220 Joined: 03/22/06	Re: Nimzo/QID 6. Nd2: new critical line Reply #1 - 04/23/06 at 15:59:04	Post Tools	Print Post
	lnn2 wrote on 04/23/06 at 13:54:36: The following game was played by Karpov yesterday in the Russian Club Championship, this tournament is probably his first appearance at a classical time control for some time, and its good to see him showing interesting new ideas again! Zviagintsev-Karpov Sochi 2006 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 b6 5. Bg5 Bb7 6. Nd2 h6 7. Bh4 Nc6!? 8. e3 Bxc3! 9. bxc3 Qe7!? 10. e4 e5 11. d5 Nb8 12. f3 Na6 13. a4 Nc5 14. a5 d6 15. Be2 O-O 16. Nf1 Rfb8 17. Ne3 Bc8 18. O-O Nb7 19. Qc2 g5 20. axb6 axb6 21. Bf2 1/2-1/2 As far as i know, 7... Nc6!? is rare, probably a novelty at a high level. Karpov's subsequent plan of blockading on the dark squares is typical of the nimzo and looks hard to crack. So this, as well as 7... Be7 8. e4 Nxe4 (Ward-H.Hunt in Emms' latest update), appears to me the critical test of 6. Nd2 at the moment. Any thoughts? 1) According to my DB, 7...Nc6 has been played 4 times in games where both players were over 2500. 9...Qe7 is new. BTW 7...Nc6 is not covered in the QI book by Yrjola & Tella. 2) IMHO 8.a3 is a good alternative to 8.e3, as after 8...Be7 9.e3 the N on c6 is somewhat misplaced, being denied of its natural Ne7-g6(f5) manoeuvre, while after 8...Bxc3 9.bxc3 white can achieve e2-e4 in one move (instead of e2-e3-e4), for example 9...Ne7 10.f3 Nf5 11.Bf2 d5 12.Qb1!? Qd7 13.e4 looks promising for white (Bodiroga-Ilincic, 2003) Ptero


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lnn2 God Member Offline Posts: 1504 Location: nc Joined: 09/22/04	Nimzo/QID 6. Nd2: new critical line 04/23/06 at 13:54:36	Post Tools	Print Post
	The following game was played by Karpov yesterday in the Russian Club Championship, this tournament is probably his first appearance at a classical time control for some time, and its good to see him showing interesting new ideas again! Zviagintsev-Karpov Sochi 2006 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Nf3 b6 5. Bg5 Bb7 6. Nd2 h6 7. Bh4 Nc6!? 8. e3 Bxc3! 9. bxc3 Qe7!? 10. e4 e5 11. d5 Nb8 12. f3 Na6 13. a4 Nc5 14. a5 d6 15. Be2 O-O 16. Nf1 Rfb8 17. Ne3 Bc8 18. O-O Nb7 19. Qc2 g5 20. axb6 axb6 21. Bf2 1/2-1/2 As far as i know, 7... Nc6!? is rare, probably a novelty at a high level. Karpov's subsequent plan of blockading on the dark squares is typical of the nimzo and looks hard to crack. So this, as well as 7... Be7 8. e4 Nxe4 (Ward-H.Hunt in Emms' latest update), appears to me the critical test of 6. Nd2 at the moment. Any thoughts?


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