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Re: Martin's Scandinavian (Easy Way DVD)
Reply #13 - 06/14/06 at 21:17:51
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After one viewing i noticed one big mistake in Martin's presentation.  After 6.Bc4 Martin advises an immediate b5 to gain tempo on the bishop.  In fact in the introductory chapter Martin gives 

1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd6 4.d4 Nf6 5.Nf3 a6 6.Bc4 b5 7.Bb3 e6 8.O-O 
Bb7 9.Re1 Nbd7?

when 10.d5 is very good (+1.30 or so) for white.

In the very next chapter, Martin retracts this line, saying that a ChessBase employee in the studio noticed that 10.d5 wins for White.  Martin says 9...Be7 would have been better.  But black still has some difficulty in that line.

Much better is the advice of James Plaskett in his Batsford book , The Scandinavian Defence, to follow up 6.Bc4 with 6...e6 FIRST, and then get on with the b5-Bb7 plan the following move.  This is a good idea to avoid the trainwreck disaster that occurred in Ponomariov-Fressinet 1999:

[Event "EU-chT (Men)"]
[Site "Batumi"]
[Date "1999.11.06"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "3"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Ruslan Ponomariov"]
[Black "Laurent Fressinet"]
[ECO "B01"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "42"]

1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd6 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.d4 a6 6.Bc4 Nbd7 7.O-O b5 8.Bb3 Bb7
9.Ng5 e6 10.Re1 Be7 11.Nxe6 fxe6 12.Rxe6 Qb4 13.a3 Qa5 14.Bd2 b4 15.axb4 Qf5 16.Qe2 Ng8
17.Ra5 Qf8 18.Nd5 Kd8 19.b5 Bd6 20.bxa6 Bc6 21.Nb4 Nb8 1-0

In my opinion the DVD is ok, but probably not worth $30 when you can get Plaskett's Scandinavian book (about 40 pages of coverage), Gary Lane's "Ideas behind modern openings: black" (about 30 pages of coverage), or the Melts book (tons of pages, but dense & little prose) for $14 or $15 online.

For a basic working knowledge, clearly spelt out, I would also point to my own blog posting about this variation:
http://chessforblood.blogspot.com/2006/03/10-minute-guide-to-qd6-scandinavian.ht...

I wrote that post before viewing Martin's DVD, but Martin actually does not go in much more depth than my blog posting.

I must reveal my that rating is rather low, but my analysis in my blogpost is based on my books so hopefully can be trusted.  I am an underrated 1701 player.  http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlTnmtHst.php?13314232

In lines with Bg4 and Nc6, the line is an improved version of Chigorin QGD-- the fact that white's pawn is on c2 behind the c3knight instead of on the e-file makes the d4 pawn harder to defend.  In the lines with b5 and Bb7, the line resembles a sort of Sicilian defense with black getting queenside space and good diagonals to the white's kingside for the bishops.
  

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Re: Martin's Scandinavian (Easy Way DVD)
Reply #12 - 06/08/06 at 10:18:46
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Hi everybody! This is my first post on this Forum.
I play the Scandinavian Defense, and some time ago I purchased Andrew Martin “ Scandinavian – The Easy Way” (a good DVD by the way). I found amazing reading IM Martin switched to 6…Bg4 from his repertoire suggestion of 6…b5 against  the g3 system.
I think Kotronias – Godena, Batumi 2002 it’s an hard nut to crack for Black. Godena, a very strong GM (stronger than his actual Elo rating) was crushed effortless. The suggested improvement of 12…Qd6 it’s a possibile draw by repetition, if White wants to, and 13. Qe2 or 13. g4 are both very dangerous for Black. According to my knowledge in all this lines White has a slight advantage.
In a recent  semi blitz tournament I tried to delay long castling. I played 8…e6; 9.Bf4 Qb4!? sacrificing the c pawn with a good result. But I’m not sure that is bullet proof.
Anyway, in my databases Black results in the 6…Bg4 are nothing to write home about, expecially if playing for a win. It’s time togive 9…Ne5 a try?
IM Martin wrote that “Black scored well in the Bg4 line”, so I will be very glad if he would be so kind to give us a hint: which is the right way to go? Kotronias – Godena is a nightmare! And John Emms book on the Scandinavian (2nd edition) don't help either: White has a plus.
Thanks everyone in advance for the reply
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Re: Martin's Scandinavian (Easy Way DVD)
Reply #11 - 06/07/06 at 11:27:20
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I haven't looked, yet, whether the recent chesspbulishing coverage actually addresses Khalifman's analysis.


It doesn´t! The game mentioned is one where Glek plays something awful as White, theres a lot more to this than meets the eye  Wink
  
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Re: Martin's Scandinavian (Easy Way DVD)
Reply #10 - 06/07/06 at 08:31:08
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Bonsai:  Thanks for the speedy information.  I'll try and track down that volume some where and look over the analysis.

Frendo:  I went ahead and ordered Melts' book off Amazon.com.  Thanks for the tip.
  

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Reply #9 - 06/07/06 at 06:40:11
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BTW, Did Khalifman cover ...Qd6 in his Anand series?  I'm assuming if he did he only gave one line as Khalifman tends to downplay these types of things IMHO.

Yes, he's covering it in chapter 25 of volume 3, pages 331 to 334 following as his mainline the aforementioned 6.g3 Bg4 by using Kontronias-Godena, Batumi 2002 and eventually diverges from that game with an attempt to improve over it as black.
He however still thinks white is better. I haven't looked, yet, whether the recent chesspbulishing coverage actually addresses Khalifman's analysis.
  
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Re: Martin's Scandinavian (Easy Way DVD)
Reply #8 - 06/07/06 at 01:16:20
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"Probably the definitive book (for now anyway) on the ...Qd6 variation is the one alluded to by jeupham, Scandinavian Defense: The Dynamic 3. ..Qd6 by Melts."

-Wow.  Is it still the best?  Wasn't it basically the first?  This is surely an underdeveloped opening.

BTW, Did Khalifman cover ...Qd6 in his Anand series?  I'm assuming if he did he only gave one line as Khalifman tends to downplay these types of things IMHO.
  

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Re: Martin's Scandinavian (Easy Way DVD)
Reply #7 - 06/07/06 at 01:08:46
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Oh!  Sorry bout that.  Probably the definitive book (for now anyway) on the ...Qd6 variation is the one alluded to by jeupham, Scandinavian Defense: The Dynamic 3. ..Qd6 by Melts.
  
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Re: Martin's Scandinavian (Easy Way DVD)
Reply #6 - 06/07/06 at 00:26:18
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Frendo, you got me in the middle of an edit  Smiley

I think the KS fianchetto gives black fair chances but I don't see anything to clear cut equality.

  

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Reply #5 - 06/06/06 at 23:32:21
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Apparently jeupham isn't completely satisfied after 5.Nge2.  At least not after 5...a6.  Any suggestions on how to meet that?  It's not been covered yet by Chesspublishing.com.
  
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Re: Martin's Scandinavian (Easy Way DVD)
Reply #4 - 06/06/06 at 23:24:32
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Thank you for the information on ...Bg4.  I will take look at the games mentioned for some guidance.

Mr. Martin: When you said the next ChessBase magazine, are you referring to issue 111 or 112?  I just want to be sure since I am slowly becoming a Scandinavian fanatic (its all your fault) and I think I might pick up a copy just for that bit.   Wink


Jeupham:  The Qd3-over- to- f3 idea does seem to look good.  I like a KS fianchetto to hit white's QS, but solid central play could perhaps be more "in spirit".  Lines A+B involve the fianchetto -  line C is the "classical" central one.

A:  7. ... Nc6  8. O-O-O Nb4 (hitting the queen and coming to d5)   9.Qf3 g6  10. ...  Nbd5
B:  7. ... g6    8. O-O-O Nh4!? followed by ...Bg7 and ...O-O with play on both wings. (perhaps ..Nbd7-b6) 
C:  7. ... c6    8. O-O-O Nd5 and either 9.Qf3 Nf4 (9.Be5 Nd7)  10.Nf4 e6  seems to be rather solid but better for white

Although, 7...b5!? 8.O-O-O Bb7 looks fine for black the immediate  8.Qf3 c6  9.Ne4 Nd5  10.O-O-O  g6!?  looks more critical.

That's my 2 cents.

Cheers.

ps - what books would people recommend on the ...Qd6 lines?  Does anyone know ECO's recommendation for white?
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Re: Martin's Scandinavian (Easy Way DVD)
Reply #3 - 06/06/06 at 18:20:33
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I have in postal progress a fairly horrible defensive chore as Black after

4. d4 Sf6 5. Sge2 a6 6. Lf4 Dd8 7. Dd3!? (a strong suggestion of Melts, with the clear idea of Df3 and Blacks Queenside expansion plan comes to a grinding halt) Cry

I tried 7..Sc6 8. 000 e6 9. Df3 Lb4 10. g4!?

and am somewhat on the back foot. 

Maybe the 5. Sge2 puts a spanner in the a6+b5 works?
Suggestions are welcome! Smiley

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Re: Martin's Scandinavian (Easy Way DVD)
Reply #2 - 06/06/06 at 18:10:08
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Just wanted to add that Mr.Martin has also analysed the game Zelcic-Sermek which was also is a good advertisement for 6...Bg4!
  
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Re: Martin's Scandinavian (Easy Way DVD)
Reply #1 - 06/06/06 at 17:28:18
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Hi Everyone,

Good question.

I would make a change if I had the opportunity, in the line with 6 g3 which was recommended in a recent NIC yearbook for White. There, instead of 6...b5 I would now suggest 6...Bg4! which is scoring well for Black. Check out Glek-Muhammed which has been annotated on this site and on which I have commentated by video for the next ChessBase magazine,thus updating the DVD.

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Martin's Scandinavian (Easy Way DVD)
06/05/06 at 22:46:36
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Hello,

I was wondering if there has been any critical improvements or ideas since Andrew Martin's DVD came out.
Basically, how are the ...Qd6 lines holding up these days?   
Is it still fairly safe to play in tournaments? 

I ordered the DVD and am waiting for it to show up, but in the meantime I was hoping to find out about any improvements on either side.  Or any additional games worth checking out.

Specifically, would IM Martin want to add anything new or "fix" anything if the DVD were being made now?
Perhaps even the man himself could answer....... Roll Eyes

Thanks,
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